The Legal Leaders Podcast

Charles Jake & Blake Billings on leading legal at KSU: A land-grant university

The Legal Leaders Podcast

Show Notes

In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Charles Jake, General Counsel, and Blake Billings, Deputy General Counsel, at Kansas State University (KSU) about what it takes to lead legal at a modern land-grant university. From supporting a statewide public mission to building a strategic and scalable legal function, Charles and Blake share how KSU's legal team navigates institutional complexity while staying focused on trust, operational excellence, and long-term impact. They discuss the unique challenges of higher education law, the role of strategic planning in shaping a legal department, and how a strong General Counsel–Deputy General Counsel partnership helps drive efficiency and effectiveness across the institution. They discuss: What makes legal leadership at a land-grant university uniquely complex How KSU built a strategic roadmap for its legal department The importance of trust, operational discipline, and team structure in modern legal functions

Tune in for an unfiltered conversation on legal leadership, higher education, and building a legal team designed to support an institution for generations to come.

Connect with Charles Jake on LinkedIn Connect with Blake Billings on LinkedIn Sign up and join the Legal Leaders community

More from The Legal Leaders Podcast

Oct 20, 2026

In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Tommaso Pace, General Counsel at Tabby, about leading legal in the rapidly evolving fintech sector across the Middle East, building high-performing legal teams, and navigating regulation in one of the world's fastest-growing markets. They discuss: What makes the UAE and Saudi Arabian regulatory landscape unique for fintech companies How to attract, retain, and develop legal talent in a highly competitive market Why operational thinking, legal technology, and legal ops are becoming essential for modern legal leadership

Oct 6, 2026

In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Ona Alston Dosunmu, President and CEO at NACUA (the National Association of College and University Attorneys), about running the home of higher education law, the surprising breadth of campus counsel work, and why higher ed matters more than ever to the American economy and democracy.

Sep 22, 2026

In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Benjamin White, Founder of Crafty Counsel, about building one of the world's most influential in-house legal communities, creating meaningful connections for legal professionals, and why the future of legal leadership depends on trust, vulnerability, and shared learning.

Sep 15, 2026

In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Matt Pentz, Deputy Town Attorney at the Town of Cary, North Carolina, about what it actually looks like to be in-house counsel for a local government – one of the largest, least-talked-about areas of in-house legal practice in the country.

Sep 8, 2026

In this episode of The Legal Leaders Podcast, host David Lancelot talks with Adrian Moffatt, Executive General Manager – Legal and Corporate at Ausco Modular, about how in-house lawyers can build influence, earn trust, and grow beyond the legal function.

See all episodes →