What's Your Deal? | Business Buying, Business Acquisitions, Investing & Exit Strategies

Acquisition Capital: Using Retirement Accounts to Invest in Businesses - John Bowens

What's Your Deal? | Business Buying, Business Acquisitions, Investing & Exit Strategies

Show Notes

In this episode of What's Your Deal?, Matt sits down with John Bowens, Director of Head of Education & Investor Success at Equity Trust, to break down one of the most overlooked wealth tools for entrepreneurs and investors: self-directed retirement accounts.

John explains what "self-directed" actually means, why most retirement money stays locked in mutual funds by default, and how investors can use IRAs, 401(k)s (and even HSAs) to invest in real estate, private lending, private equity, pre-IPO stock, cryptocurrency, and precious metals—all while keeping the tax advantages of retirement accounts.

They also dive into the ROBS (Rollover for Business Startups) structure and how some buyers use retirement funds to acquire a business without triggering taxes and penalties—plus the common mistakes and prohibited transaction rules that can trip people up if they don't understand the guardrails.

If you've ever wondered how to put your retirement money to work in the assets you actually understand—this episode is your roadmap.

Timestamps:

1:30 – What Equity Trust does + what "self-directed" means

3:40 – John's background and how he got into this industry

6:40 – Why investors choose self-directed accounts (diversification + taxes)

9:20 – Clearing up a misconception: contributing vs investing

12:15 – Liquidity: short-term vs long-term alternative investing

16:50 – Matching strategy to age, goals, and skill set

20:20 – ROBS overview: using retirement funds to buy a business

29:50 – Costs + when it does/doesn't make sense financially

38:45 – Common mistakes + prohibited transactions

41:30 – John's "hand up" story + mentors

Resources & Links

Connect with John:

Website: https://www.trustetc.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnbowenscisp

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-bowens/

Connect with Matt:

Follow Us on Social Media

Instagram: @AmpedSuccess

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-uhler-a9896612/

Tiktok: @Ampedsuccess

YouTube: @AmpedSuccess

📧 Contact Us: [email protected]

More from What's Your Deal? | Business Buying, Business Acquisitions, Investing & Exit Strategies

Oct 21, 2026

Matt Uhler sits down with Mike Grossman, author of Failure Is an Option and a veteran CEO of six venture-funded companies. Mike explains how two failed attempts to take a company public led to an acquisition worth meaningfully more than the IPO. He covers why you should focus on inputs instead of outcomes and the danger of chasing adjacent opportunities. He also explains when it's worth defying your board, why spending discipline matters, and how a fully remote team of 300+ changed his view on recruiting.

Oct 14, 2026

Colleen Joyce, CEO of Lawyer.com, joins Matt Uhler to share how she built an eight-figure legal marketplace from a single room and a great domain name. She explains her "sell it, then build it" approach, why the team that gets you to $1 million usually isn't the team that gets you to $20 million, and how a money-losing live events experiment became a profitable annual conference. Colleen and Matt also dig into fast failure, learning to delegate, and what AI really means for lawyers and the people who need them.

Oct 7, 2026

For the first time on What's Your Deal, Matt Uhler sits down with a fellow business broker, Ryan Armstrong of Transworld Phoenix. He and Matt walk through the full life of a Main Street deal: preparing the seller emotionally, building a data-driven listing, and vetting buyers. They also cover LOIs, due diligence, financing and closing, and why the best deals leave buyer and seller as friends.

Sep 30, 2026

Why do brilliant people sometimes make terrible decisions? According to Rich Hua, former Chief EQ Evangelist at Amazon, it's because stress can cut your effective IQ in half, and most leaders were never taught how to manage it.

Sep 23, 2026

Ryan Beckmann built and lost multi-million-dollar RV dealerships, won a 40 Under 40 award the same year he became homeless, and fought his way back from addiction to found Hero Picks and The Last Save. In this raw conversation, Ryan shares what it took to hit bottom, why service to others became the key to his own healing, and how he's now building "Beyond Awareness" — a platform designed to connect survivors of trauma and abuse directly to real-time resources and sustainable funding.

See all episodes →