Show Notes
This week Jess is joined by Joshua Munn, a therapist specialising in OCD and ADHD, for a conversation that's long overdue on this podcast. They get into how to tell OCD and ADHD apart (spoiler: it's not always straightforward), why adapting ERP for ADHD brains actually makes therapy better for everyone, and how ACT and compassion-focused approaches fit into the picture. Expect honest chat about rejection sensitivity, executive functioning, hyperfixation shame, and why the goal was never a neurotypical brain anyway.
Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Special guest Joshua Munn, OCD and ADHD specialist therapist Website: www.therapywithjosh.co.uk Social media: @therapywith_josh on Instagram and @therapywithjosh on Tiktok
Time stamps: 00:00 What to expect this episode 01:44 Introduction to Josh 02:50 Why Josh started working with OCD and ADHD 03:40 How to differentiate OCD and ADHD 05:50 Not aiming for a neurotypical brain 06:20 Rejection sensitivity and OCD 09:00 Imposter syndrome in ADHD and OCD 10:30 What executive functioning difficulties people may notice 12:40 ADHD adaptions for OCD therapy 17:00 What ACT therapy is and how it works with OCD and ADHD 22:00 Neurodivergence and parenting 25:33 Making ERP more ADHD friendly 27:30 Visualising characters for OCD 29:20 OCD leading to low mood in ADHD 31:00 ADHD and boredom 34:33 Neurodivergence and OCD Venn diagrams 36:56 Attention training and music 39:10 Hyperfixations and shame 39:35 Healthy guilt vs OCD guilt 42:52 Josh's favourite tips for OCD and ADHD 45:20 Session adaptions for people with ADHD 48:00 Being mindful of how much OCD content you consume 50:36 Considerations for medication 53:49 Question from the listeners 56:22 Exposure Lab 58:00 Goodbyes
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