Hacking the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer, Luana Anders & Rich Martini talking to JESUS
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I wasn't sure if we were going to be able to do a podcast this week (we did, it's posted) - so I put together a few (four) different interviews where we "spoke to Jesus." Now, for those who find that problematic, in the book HACKING THE AFTERLIFE there is a transcript of my first conversation with Jennifer Shaffer - my first interview with her. And three people came forward that day - AMELIA EARHART (transcripts are in the book SHE WAS NEVER LOST; THE AMELIA EARHART SAGA) who confirmed the three decades of research I'd already done about her disappearance - then BILL PAXTON my old pal who confirmed details that only he could know (and became the basis for the doc TALKING TO BILL PAXTON on amazon prime or Gaia) and finally, an appearance by the alpha and omega. I had filmed some people seeing him before (as reported in the film and book FLIPSIDE; MY JOURNEY INTO THE AFTERLIFE) and since then, Jesus has shown up so many times in so many interviews, so many hypnotherapy sessions, guided meditations and mediumship conversations (with different mediums) - that the former head of Paramount studios asked me to share those interview in book form. THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM. If one takes a look at that book they'll see that this is not a religious belief, religious theory, or opinion that Jesus is available. He shows up often in the research, and repeatedly says things contrary to the Bible. He says "All religions point to the same garden." He says "The bible is metaphor. If the quote doesn't include unconditional love, then I didn't say it." He says "You don't have to follow me but let me walk beside you as we walk each other home." He tells an alternate version of his life - and when asked why has said more than once "It's not alternate if it's true." I can't see or hear him. (Jennifer can or the mediums can or the people doing a guided meditation can, or the 15% of NDE's who see him can). The people I'm talking to can - and like Jennifer in this conversation - which occurred over a number of years, I think going back six years based on the equipment being used. But this is an excerpt of four conversations with Jesus. I watched an interview with him and the medium Rebecca Fantl yesterday - and he says the same things there as well, says the same things with Kimberly Babcock (which is on this page) says the same things to Jamie Butler (two interviews on this podcast with Jesus via Jamie.) I post this in honor of him, not to be controversial. He still exists. And he says repeatedly, if you have an open heart he can speak to, communicate, answer questions for anyone. That's not my opinion, not a theory - not a belief. In 20 years of filming people seeing him, he says the same things over and over and over. Not that one should follow the Good Book - or claim that by following him they're better than others - or that he died on the cross for their sins. That, according to him and the friends that knew him - happened differently - no less powerful because it turns out he's the only person on the planet who survived that ordeal. But let him be heard in his own words. Happy Easter. He is Risen - because he never left. The Second Coming is the realization that he never left and that all of our loved ones still exist - and are accessible, available and can help us out of whatever conflicts or problems we put ourselves into. Jesus... or Yeshua, or Esiah (as his friends report they knew him as Essie, or the way he's known in the region as Issa and in the Qur'an as Issa) in his own words. Hope this helps someone!
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Another mind bending podcast. Amelia Earhart is in the news - and came through to talk about what the expedition means to her. She then was followed by the screenwriter, my old boss Robert Towne who wanted to weigh in on Tom Cruise's performance in the film "DIGGER." Robert worked with Tom often, and he gave it a rave. And then - both Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel stopped by - whom we interviewed before in BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE BOOK THREE, and they gave their thumb reviews. Mind bending stuff all the way around. The recent book SHE WAS NEVER LOST: The Amelia Earhart Saga is available everywhere.
This is a rerun of a podcast from two years ago - it didn't have subtitles but I've included them now. This was an unusual podcast just based on the folks who showed up to chat with us. Jennifer and I had taken a trip to the Chateau Marmont on Sunset Blvd, and we had a group of folks who stopped by to say hello. At some point John Belushi talked about "ghost watching" - not to show up in the hotel to watch people onstage, but to watch "the other ghosts wandering around." Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson showed up to talk about early exits - people who leave the stage early for whatever reason. And that brought a bunch of people forward, from JFK to Elvis, to Matthew Perry, Robin Williams and others... the point they were making is that people leave the stage in all different fashions, and it's about focusing on who they were while they were onstage, and not how they left it. We had a brief chat with Gene Hackman again - to clarify what happened in light of the police reports... and he made a joke about it. I try to repeat the advice that these folks are available to anyone if they take the time to ask them questions. But be prepared for them not being all that interested in questions that relate to our journey and not theirs. I asked my old pal Charles Grodin about what it was like to see his old friend Gene, and then we shifted to an event that happened later in the day. While dining at Musso and Frank's in Hollywood two members of my group saw "a ghostly figure" sitting in the corner of the room. They didn't know who it was or could be, but said he "looked like the actor Robert Downey Jr." (And even then they didn't know his name either, and asked questions about someone named "Downey") They also heard him talking about "table #1" to them - so I invited the waiter to stop by the table and simply asked about any ghosts people might have seen in the restaurant. He said "Charlie Chaplin" and I asked where table #1 was - and he mentioned the table that I had lunch with Jonathan Winters - which was table #1 - and how that's where Charlie liked to dine. We asked Charlie about why he was seen "scribbling notes" and he said it was the place he liked to have good ideas and good food, but also said in this instance, he showed up so that members of my group would see him, and that would inspire me to invite him to chat on our podcast. I don't know how else to put it - but Jennifer and I have been doing this weekly for ten years. Not everyone who shows up in our conversations is a celebrity - but because of my 40 years in the business, and Luana Ander's 300 TV shows and movies (my friend who moderates our podcast from the Flipside, who passed in 1996) I'm not surprised when people do show up that we can recognize. Jennifer's father Jim also stopped by to clarify some things, and I must say - the topic of leaving the stage early came up - if someone is in need of help or counseling, there is help - and one should reach out to 988 and the counselors there from any telephone. But in my desire to not use the S word in the podcast, I tried to leave it out of the conversation, as the algorithms will generally not want it to be discussed - but the important point was made by people offstage - that is to realize that life goes on no matter what happens, and that everyone onstage signed up to be onstage, and should see what things might occur or happen that we could not be aware of. Oh, and Robin Williams showed up to not only discuss the same topic, but to confirm that during a recent guided meditation, this woman saw him in her "classroom in the afterlife" - and he confirmed that it was him BEFORE I COULD ASK THE QUESTION. Anyways, all of it is mind bending, and hopefully whomever needs to hear what they are talking about is able to hear what they're trying to say. Thanks for tuning in!
THIS IS A PODCAST WE DID ON THIS DATE TWO YEARS AGO IN 2024. Before the book SHE WAS NEVER LOST came out... but the story remains the same. This version has subtitles for the hard of reading, but the sound is the same for the hard of hearing! xo
Today's episode begins with a discussion about talking to people on the flipside - Jennifer describes the over 200 people that she read recently, and gives an account of one of the stories where someone came through and flipped out their family when the grandmother said "I'm so glad you didn't get that tattoo!"
Another mind bending podcast... Elvis introduced Jennifer to his friend Dolly Parton. I had an inkling she would show up this week - as the day she passed I heard her voice say "I'd love to be on your show Richard" or something to that effect. I know I was thinking about something else at the time, so was suprised to hear it. And for the next couple of days it felt like we were having a conversation - me hearing Dollyisms (as a jaded blues music player, Dolly was not on any of my play lists, although I admired her voice and writing skills). So for a couple of days, I kept hearing funny comments and remarks - and then nothing the past few days, so I wasn't sure if she'd show up or not. But she did. Jennifer is a huge fan, and becomes emotional while repeating what Dolly asks her to say. Jennifer wasn't aware of the duet "Islands in the Stream" with Kenny Rogers, but Dolly made her aware of that. I asked her the same questions I ask all of our guests; who greeted her? (Husband Carl). Was that a surprise? (No, because he'd been standing by for her since he left). She spoke about her mediumship abilities - something I'd read about prior to the session. Other tidbits of fun - and observation about what it's like on the other side, and how musicians hang out together. She was and is a fan of Aretha's - and brought her along with... We spoke briefly with my pal Charles Grodin about the premiere of the documentary on TCM about him last friday night "Rebel With a Cause" and he mentioned to Jennifer his work with getting people out of prison (she hasn't seen the documentary, so it's not something she would know about). Anyways, just another day at the office. Enjoy.