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AI vs. AI: Navigating California's new frontier in defending innovation, trust, and the digital state - Thea Mann - Episode 173

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Show Notes

Join Thea Mann, Chief Information Security Officer, Office of Data and Innovation, as she examines California's position at the forefront of global innovation — and at the centre of an increasingly complex cyber threat landscape. As artificial intelligence becomes a tool for both defence and attack, the conversation explores how speed, adaptability and strategic foresight will determine who stays ahead in an AI-driven security environment.

Bringing together leaders from government, academia and industry, the session unpacks how California can use its innovation strength as a protective advantage — building AI-powered cyber resilience across critical sectors while embedding ethics, transparency and public trust at the core of future-ready governance. Thea Mann, Chief Information Security Officer, Office of Data and Innovation For more great insights head to www.PublicSectorNetwork.co

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