Kirsten Johnson Podcast

Ep 221 We’ve Been Treating Addiction Backwards with Dee-Dee Stout

Kirsten Johnson Podcast

Show Notes

What if the way we’ve been taught to think about addiction and recovery is actually getting in the way of helping people? In this episode, I sit down with harm reduction pioneer DeeDee Stout to talk about autonomy, moderation, abstinence, AA, treatment, and why meeting people where they are can make the difference.

Timestamps: 00:00 Change your drinking intro 06:21 S*icide in AA 09:09 Unraveling AA beliefs about recovery 16:36 How AA became the default 20:17 Relapse prevention, harm reduction + abstinence 28:22 Addiction treatment w/o abstinence 36:00 AA: mainstream recovery narrative + policy 46:39 D*ath threats from AA members 53:16 Brad Pitt drinking moderately 58:14 Thinking about drinking again 1:00:00 Bill W was her grand sponsor 1:04:24 Getting support w alcohol addiction + moderation 1:14:15 S*xual trauma, addiction + recovery 1:21:39 Informed consent: addiction recovery + AA 1:41:35 A shift in the recovery world 1:51:14 Books to help change your drinking 1:56:00 Working with Dee-Dee Stout

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