
Show Notes
Pink-collar jobs, admin, customer service, reception, teaching, and nursing are overwhelmingly held by women. They're also the roles most exposed to AI disruption right now. And the data shows women are using AI less than men.
That's the leapfrog risk. And IBM's Chief Technology Officer for Australia and New Zealand wants every woman listening to understand it before the gap gets bigger.
In this episode of AI Ready Women, Georgie Hubbard and Lou Compagnoni sit down with Angelica Veness, the CTO who openly says she can't code, and built her career through human-centred design instead. Angelica breaks down what's actually happening in the AI economy, where women are getting locked out, and the exact steps to move from AI-cautious to AI-curious to AI-queen… starting this week.
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✨60 Day Bold Move Career Accelerator✨
Learn More here 👉 https://www.georgiehubbard.com/bold-moves
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Connect with Me:
🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/
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♦️Website: https://www.georgiehubbard.com
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Connect with Lou Compagnone:
🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/
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Connect with Angelica Vaness:
🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelica-veness-9866519/
🟣 Free AI Learning: https://skillsbuild.org
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In Today's Episode:
→ Why "I'm a CTO who can't code" is a strategic position, not a confession
→ The pink-collar exposure: which roles are most at risk and why women hold most of them
→ The leapfrog problem — graduates are entering the workforce already AI-fluent. Mid-career women cannot afford to wait.
→ Why the gender gap in AI isn't about coding skills anymore. It's about who's typing the prompts.
→ The "moments that matter" framework for designing AI that makes work better, not just cheaper
→ How IKEA retrained its entire contact centre as interior designers — and built a $1.4B revenue line doing it
→ Why rigid hiring practices are locking capable women out of the AI economy — and what needs to shift
→ How IBM and Food Ladder are using AI to put healthy food in front of hungry Australian kids
→ The exact starting move: one tool, one buddy, one week. How to begin before you feel ready.
If you've been waiting until you feel "AI ready" before you start, this episode is the reason to begin now.
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CHAPTERS
[00:00] Cold open — "I'm a CTO who can't code"
[00:30] Welcome to AI Ready Women
[01:50] From gym sales to IBM CTO: Angelica's non-linear path
[06:00] Why design thinking is the AI superpower
[09:30] The obligation to use AI, not just design it — and why LLMs are learning male questions
[12:30] SIGNAL 1: Dr Tara Behan's warning — concentrating pain into the human part of the system
[18:30] The moments-that-matter triangulation: executives, employees, customers
[20:00] Lou's Uber nightmare: what bad AI design feels like as a customer
[22:30] Expertise atrophy — what happens when humans stop using the muscle
[25:30] SIGNAL 2: How IKEA reinvented its contact centre as interior designers
[30:30] Pink-collar exposure: what women in task-based roles need to do right now
[36:00] The hiring problem: rigid briefs are locking women out of the AI economy
[42:30] SIGNAL 3: IBM × Food Ladder — AI for good in Australian schools
[48:50] AI Cautious → AI Curious → AI Queen: how to make the shift this week
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Georgie 💜
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