
Show Notes
Jeroen Gordijn and Jeroen Dee: two frontrunners who stopped writing code months ago and say software development is already solved. Typing code is no longer necessary, but what matters more now? If you're an engineer that loves coding, you're in a tougher spot than you might realize.
In this video, we cover: - Why writing code is "solved" but engineering isn't - Spec-driven development and how to get it started in your team - The "Dark Factory" and why code review is a huge bottleneck - Model vs harness: what matters more, and why - The unhealthy side of agentic coding
If you write software for a living and you're trying to work out what your job becomes next, start here.
Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Coding Is No Longer Necessary 00:00:43 - Why "Software Development Is Already Solved" 00:02:57 - Should You Even Read the AI's Code? 00:05:05 - What Is a "Dark Factory"? 00:06:52 - If You Can Regenerate It, Why Care About Quality? 00:07:49 - Spec-Driven Development Explained 00:11:32 - Adopting Specs Without Starting From Scratch 00:13:23 - Model vs Harness: What Matters More? 00:17:27 - Is Your Harness the New IDE? 00:20:18 - Why Everyone Plateaus (and the Innovation Token) 00:22:50 - Where to Actually Spend Your Time 00:24:57 - The Unhealthy Side: "It's Free Cocaine" 00:28:00 - Is This Sustainable, or Just Subsidized? 00:30:33 - Should You Run Models Locally? 00:34:31 - Looping, Scale, and Automating Review 00:37:53 - What's Left for Engineers to Do? 00:39:13 - If You Love Writing Code, You're in Trouble 00:41:18 - Why Teams Are Getting Smaller 00:43:03 - What an "Agentic Company" Looks Like 00:46:25 - How to Start: Find Your Spark 00:50:13 - The One Habit That Keeps You Ahead
Guests: Jeroen Gordijn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroengordijn Jeroen Dee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroendee
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