224: Carle Health's ACMO/CIO Dr. David Lovinger: How a Sculptor Became a CMIO, Why Pop-Ups Are Almost Never the Right Answer, and How Design Thinking Fixes What Informatics Degrees Miss
The Digital PatientShow Notes
On this episode of The Digital Patient, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO of SeamlessMD, and colleague, Alan Sardana, chat with David Lovinger, MD, FHM, FACP, Associate Chief Medical Officer and Chief Informatics Officer at Carle Health, about "How a Sculptor Became a CMIO, Why Pop-Ups Are Almost Never the Right Answer, How Design Thinking Fixes What Informatics Degrees Miss, and more..."
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