Show Notes
Dr. Ervin Laszlo is a philosopher and systems scientist. He’s the author, co-author or editor of 106 different books and he’s written over 400 articles and research papers. Among many other awards he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2004 and 2005.
Now 92 and stil as passionate as ever, Dr. Laszlo describes how mainstream science is dangerously flawed. Our primary topic of discussion is attractors; which has the potential to be the Copernican moment for Western culture. Laszlo has pioneered the scientific acceptance of the “holotropic attractor.”1 In his latest (free) book Our Sacred Mission he describes this as “a force that orients interactions in the universe towards the formation of complex and coherent systems.”
In our short 25 minute conversation Dr. Laszlo described why it’s of urgent societal importance and massive personal benefit for us to align with this force.
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This is a presentation given at Leading Edge's New York Summit 2026. Bubba vulnerably and generously agreed to make it public.
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