Softening Sustain Talk & Cultivating Change Talk With Hillary Logan
MI for Change: Motivational Interviewing in ABA & Mental HealthShow Notes
Share Your Thoughts With Us In this episode of MI for Change, I’m joined by Hillary Logan, LCSW, MINT-certified trainer and founder of MI Center for Change, for a deep, practical conversation about sustain talk—or as Hillary calls it, “stuck talk.” Together, we explore what sustain talk is really telling us about a client’s readiness, why it’s protective (not resistance), and how to soften sustain talk without amplifying it, while intentionally cultivating change talk. We talk about: Why sust...
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