Talking Scared

297 – Kyle Winkler & Roll For Your “F**K You” Stats

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Show Notes

Leaning into absolute high geekery this week – with Kyle Winkler’s novel of how family game night can go badly wrong!

The Ship of Death is about a cursed (and I mean CURSED!) tabletop role-playing game and the unlucky couple who choose to play it. Or, as Kyle describes it “Dark Jumanji.”

It prompts a conversation about games in life and fiction. Epistolary structure and found-fiction. We discuss his relationship with the bizarre, his love for mysteries without answers, we consider who is really responsible for the world-building in a story, and we pay a lot of respect to cosmic horror influences beyond Lovecraft.

It’s was a delight to record. Hope you enjoy listening.

Other books mentioned:

Grasshands (2024), by Kyle Winkler

Boris Says the Words (2022), by Kyle Winkler

The Nothing That Is (2020), by Kyle Winkler

Borne (2017), by Jeff VanderMeer

Zothique (1970), by Clarke Ashton Smith

The Dying Earth (1950), by Jack Vance

Enduring Love (1997), by Ian McEwan

Negative Space (2020), by B.R. Yeager

True Crime (2020), by Samantha Kolesnik

The House Next Door (1978), by Anne River Siddons

My Dark Places (1996), by James Ellroy

Penpal (2012), by Dathan Auerbach

Mockingbird (1980), by Paul Tevis

The Blacktongue Thief (2021), by Christopher Buehlman

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