Episode 28: The Power of the Lymphatic System: Understanding Inflammation and Pain with Dr. Perry Nickelston

Three years since the first episode, Jordan and Zak are back on the same couch, and they open on time. Why it speeds up as you get older, why a weekend in a Daylesford cabin with nothing planned drags it back to a crawl, and what your brainwaves are doing when you drop into a meditation and lose track of the clock. It moves from there into neutralising fear instead of running from it, why speaking into a problem dissolves it while speaking about it keeps it swinging back, and where your decisions actually come from in a world where reviews, algorithms and AI will happily choose for you. Records over Netflix. A barber found by walking off the street. And the cascade that kicks off the second you sit down to eat lunch with a phone in your hand. 💫 Stay Connected ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan's Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Join Zak's community⁠⁠ Instagram: Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Episode Description Jordan and Zak trace their journeys from rigid, system-bound practitioners to where they are now - trusting their intuition, sitting with uncertainty, and actually enjoying the process. They get into what it really means to work with someone (and be someone) who's still on the path, why curiosity is the most underrated clinical tool, and why the best coaches are the ones who haven't got it all figured out.

Episode Description In this raw, unfiltered episode Jordan and Zak go deep on the body as an energetic map, why your fascia holds more than just physical tension, and what it actually takes to show up as your most authentic self in a world designed to keep you contracted. No scripts. No edits. Just real talk.

Episode Description This one's a free-flowing, honest conversation about what it actually means to show up for your health - and your life without being enslaved to outcomes or evidence. Jordan and Zak unpack why finding a hobby you genuinely love (bass, surfing, reading, painting = whatever it is) might be one of the most underrated health practices you can have. Dr. Happiness isn't a punchline; it might be the whole point. They also get into the traps people fall into in both conventional and holistic health systems, the difference between accumulating knowledge and actually embodying it, and why being authentic enough to be hated by some people is a sign you're doing something right. 💫 Stay Connected ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎧 Chapters Timestamps 0:00 — Intro: picking up bass, jamming instead of recording, and how it all started 4:20 — Devotion to the practice: flow state, hobbies, and getting out of your head 9:10 — Belief in yourself, high performers, and controlling intention not outcomes 14:00 — Breathwork, psychedelics, and surrendering control of what comes up 17:30 — Detaching from the evidence: why results always show up last 23:45 — Dr. Happiness, joy, and humor as lost health fundamentals 30:00 — Surrounding yourself with people who energise you vs. drain you 35:10 — Authenticity, projections, and why being liked by everyone is a red flag 41:00 — The quote: "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you're not" 44:30 — The comfort crisis: Uber Eats, AI, Ozempic and the Wally future 50:00 — Learning through embodiment, not accumulation — Gerry Pollack and water 54:30 — Simplicity vs. complexity in health: the Check system and getting back to foundations 58:00 — When to ask for help — and why it's a sign of integrity, not weakness 1:01:13 — Close

Episode Description We kick off 2026 with a proper catch-up after a summer of travel We unpack parenthood, boundaries, and what it actually takes to be present, not just productive. Then we go deeper into intuition and decision-making (especially under pressure), nervous system regulation as the real foundation, and why “how you do it” matters as much as “what you do”. We finish with a big conversation on AI, where it helps, where it subtly erodes creativity and independence, and why the future belongs to people who can stay human, build community, and lead with real presence. 💫 Stay Connected ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎧 Chapters 00:00 – Back for 2026, travel catch-up, and resetting the lens New Year energy, Tassie vs NZ, summer rhythm, and why this ep is a proper catch-up. 05:55 – Tassie: food, family, and the pull back to slowness Wild seafood, “motherland” feelings, and how places you wanted to escape can call you back. 10:45 – Merimbula + the power of a big view Why looking out at the horizon changes your baseline, creativity, and nervous system. 14:30 – New Zealand: South Island road trip, water, mountains, perspective Wedding, Christchurch, Twizel, Wanaka, Queenstown, and what a real break does to your mind. 19:35 – Time off, honouring what you’ve built, and coming back sharper Celebrating the work without living on autopilot, boundaries that actually stick. 24:05 – Fatherhood, presence, and protecting the sacred afternoon window Minimum effective dose in business, the cost of “yes”, and being there for the moments that matter. 29:10 – Men becoming fathers, the gradual shift vs the shock Preparing early, mirroring the slow-down, and why it reduces resistance later. 33:35 – The vaccine tension: values, projection, and staying steady Navigating friends/family opinions, not over-explaining, and holding your line without war. 40:10 – Intuition vs fear, and how to make decisions in the right state Body signals, state-based decision making, and why rushed conversations create “yuck” choices. 47:00 – Nervous system regulation in real life (not just more practices) Presence as a way of living, chewing food as a daily anchor, and the “how” over the “what”. 52:20 – Dopamine, distraction, and why people can’t integrate what they know Detoxing stimulus, getting awareness back, and letting clarity come to you. 57:40 – AI: tool vs takeover, and the future being more human Why people will crave real presence and community, and where coaches become more important, not less. 1:03:40 – Wrap-up: what’s next (Q&A, gut health, peptides) + closing reflections Upcoming episodes, communities, and locking in the rhythm for 2026.