Hacking The Afterlife podcast

Hacking the Afterlife w Jennifer Shaffer, Luana, Heath, Robert Duvall, Carl, Paul, Gene, Chuck and Bud

Hacking The Afterlife podcast

Show Notes

Another mind bending podcast with Jennifer Shaffer and Rich Martini inviting Luana Anders and her clipboard to talk to us from the flipside. In today's edition, Amelia Earhart comes forward to talk about our appearance on Gaia's #BEYONDBELIEF the previous week where we spoke about her and the book SHE WAS NEVER LOST: THE AMELIA EARHART SAGA. Then Heath Ledger stopped by, as he knows one of Jennifer's clients that she's speaking with this week. I heard Robert Duvall's voice in my kitchen the other day, and wondered if he might want to speak. Since he worked with Sally Kellerman on the film MASH (directed by Robert Altman) I thought perhaps Robert or Sally's pal Bud Cort might stop by for a chat from the flipside. As it turned out "one of the two" was willing to take our speaker's chair and answer our questions. That was the acclaimed actor Robert Duvall - and as one can observe in the podcast, it was a long time before Jennifer realized who I was referring to. All of the folks that I asked about are either on the flipside, people that he worked with (Marlon Brando, Fred Roos, Robert Towne, etc) and I asked him if he had messages for some of his pals still on stage (Dustin Hoffman, Francis Coppola, his wife Luciana, etc.) He recalled having lunch with me in a noisy cafe in Santa Fe (Luana and Gene Hackman were there as well.)

Again - the reason we do this podcast is to demonstrate how easy it is to speak to our loved ones offstage. They're eager and waiting to converse with us - and there are three methods one can use to learn new information from them. 1. Hypnotherapy. I recommend the four to six hour session as done by therapists trained by the Newton Institute. 2. Guided meditation. A person can open themselves up to a conversation using meditation. 3. Mediumship. People like Jennifer who work with law enforcement agencies daily, pro bono, so I know how effective she can be. In this case, I have had conversations with, or talked to all of the people mentioned in this episode. I've written and or directed 10 feature films - many have never heard or seen any of them, but either my relationship with Luana Anders, Charles Grodin, or the actors I've worked with before allows me to use the "six degrees of separation" idea to converse with them - or have our pal Luana Anders invite them for a conversation. I've been doing this now for two decades - I met Jennifer about 11 years ago, and we've been doing this weekly for all that time. So it's not like we don't have our own language to speak with each other. We did appear on Gaia's BEYOND BELIEF last week, which will air sometime soon and is about the book SHE WAS NEVER LOST; THE AMELIA EARHART SAGA. (There are some clips and previous podcasts about the book at the "Hacking the Afterlife" podcast page on YouTube. #RobertDuvall, #HeathLedger, #CarlWeathers, #PaulNewman, #GeneHackman, #SallyKellerman, #BudCort, #CharlesGrodin Enjoy.

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Oct 16, 2026

Another mind bending podcast. Amelia Earhart is in the news - and came through to talk about what the expedition means to her. She then was followed by the screenwriter, my old boss Robert Towne who wanted to weigh in on Tom Cruise's performance in the film "DIGGER." Robert worked with Tom often, and he gave it a rave. And then - both Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel stopped by - whom we interviewed before in BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE BOOK THREE, and they gave their thumb reviews. Mind bending stuff all the way around. The recent book SHE WAS NEVER LOST: The Amelia Earhart Saga is available everywhere.

Oct 10, 2026

This is a rerun of a podcast from two years ago - it didn't have subtitles but I've included them now. This was an unusual podcast just based on the folks who showed up to chat with us. Jennifer and I had taken a trip to the Chateau Marmont on Sunset Blvd, and we had a group of folks who stopped by to say hello. At some point John Belushi talked about "ghost watching" - not to show up in the hotel to watch people onstage, but to watch "the other ghosts wandering around." Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson showed up to talk about early exits - people who leave the stage early for whatever reason. And that brought a bunch of people forward, from JFK to Elvis, to Matthew Perry, Robin Williams and others... the point they were making is that people leave the stage in all different fashions, and it's about focusing on who they were while they were onstage, and not how they left it. We had a brief chat with Gene Hackman again - to clarify what happened in light of the police reports... and he made a joke about it. I try to repeat the advice that these folks are available to anyone if they take the time to ask them questions. But be prepared for them not being all that interested in questions that relate to our journey and not theirs. I asked my old pal Charles Grodin about what it was like to see his old friend Gene, and then we shifted to an event that happened later in the day. While dining at Musso and Frank's in Hollywood two members of my group saw "a ghostly figure" sitting in the corner of the room. They didn't know who it was or could be, but said he "looked like the actor Robert Downey Jr." (And even then they didn't know his name either, and asked questions about someone named "Downey") They also heard him talking about "table #1" to them - so I invited the waiter to stop by the table and simply asked about any ghosts people might have seen in the restaurant. He said "Charlie Chaplin" and I asked where table #1 was - and he mentioned the table that I had lunch with Jonathan Winters - which was table #1 - and how that's where Charlie liked to dine. We asked Charlie about why he was seen "scribbling notes" and he said it was the place he liked to have good ideas and good food, but also said in this instance, he showed up so that members of my group would see him, and that would inspire me to invite him to chat on our podcast. I don't know how else to put it - but Jennifer and I have been doing this weekly for ten years. Not everyone who shows up in our conversations is a celebrity - but because of my 40 years in the business, and Luana Ander's 300 TV shows and movies (my friend who moderates our podcast from the Flipside, who passed in 1996) I'm not surprised when people do show up that we can recognize. Jennifer's father Jim also stopped by to clarify some things, and I must say - the topic of leaving the stage early came up - if someone is in need of help or counseling, there is help - and one should reach out to 988 and the counselors there from any telephone. But in my desire to not use the S word in the podcast, I tried to leave it out of the conversation, as the algorithms will generally not want it to be discussed - but the important point was made by people offstage - that is to realize that life goes on no matter what happens, and that everyone onstage signed up to be onstage, and should see what things might occur or happen that we could not be aware of. Oh, and Robin Williams showed up to not only discuss the same topic, but to confirm that during a recent guided meditation, this woman saw him in her "classroom in the afterlife" - and he confirmed that it was him BEFORE I COULD ASK THE QUESTION. Anyways, all of it is mind bending, and hopefully whomever needs to hear what they are talking about is able to hear what they're trying to say. Thanks for tuning in!

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