In Depth

Competing with OpenAI and Meta for your inbox | Jean-Denis Greze (Town Co-founder & CEO)

In Depth

Show Notes

In this episode of In Depth, Todd sits down with Jean-Denis Greze, co-founder and CEO of Town, the AI work assistant that gives every employee their own agent. Before Town, Jean-Denis spent seven years as CTO of Plaid and led engineering teams at Dropbox, where he and Todd first worked together. In this conversation, they dive into what it takes to build in tech's hottest category while competing with Microsoft, Google and the frontier labs, why Town bet on work agents over personal agents, and how to get agents to share the right information with each other.

In today's episode, we discuss:

The edge that keeps Town competitive with Google and Microsoft

How user feedback adjusted Town’s product

Why Jean-Denis believes people will start delegating decision-making to AI

What a multiplayer AI assistant world looks like

Why Town started rolling back its guardrails after users approved 95% of agent actions

References:

Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/

Bret Taylor: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettaylor/

Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/

Figma: https://www.figma.com/

Glean: https://www.glean.com/

Google: https://www.google.com/

HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com/

Instinct: https://instinct.com/

Meta: https://www.meta.com/

Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/

OpenAI: https://openai.com/

Plaid: https://plaid.com/

Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com/

Sierra: https://sierra.ai/

Slack: https://slack.com/

Town: https://www.town.com/

Where to find Jean-Denis:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeandenisgreze

Twitter/X: https://x.com/jgreze

Where to find Todd:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddj0/

Twitter/X: https://x.com/tjack

Where to find First Round Capital:

Website: https://firstround.com/

First Round Review: https://review.firstround.com/

Twitter/X: https://x.com/firstround

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FirstRoundCapital

This podcast on all platforms: https://review.firstround.com/podcast

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:28 Competing in the AI agent race

03:23 Why people will run two AI assistants

07:01 Why personal AI hits a ceiling and work AI doesn't

09:08 What made always-on agents possible now

15:54 Building on labs that compete with you

17:57 Pricing tokens instead of outcomes

22:52 How Town's users drive new features

25:08 Why Town is actually an AI onboarding platform

27:15 What a design-minded co-founder brings

29:13 The one-agent-per-person debate

30:59 Why Town pivoted from tax to AI assistants

32:01 Designing an agent people can trust

35:27 How multiplayer changes privacy

44:33 Why AI should choose what you share with coworkers

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