KB Has an HONEST Conversation on 116 Fallout, Reconciliation, and Christian Hip Hop
The Deep End With LecraeShow Notes
KB has been one of the most theologically sharp voices in Christian hip hop for over two decades. In this episode, he finally says what he's never said publicly — about his relationship with Lecrae, the tension inside 116, and the years it took to get to the other side of it. This one goes deep. IN THIS EPISODE: How KB came to faith at 16 through a bootleg mixtape The Flavor Fest moment that connected KB and Lecrae for the first time What KB was carrying inside 116 that Lecrae didn't know about The counseling session KB needed before he could tour with Lecrae The South by Southwest text that nearly fractured the movement Why KB felt Lecrae was over-indexing his mainstream reach The tearful reconciliation — and what it took to get there KB on reformed theology, race, and navigating Black identity in evangelical spaces Why KB says the new generation of Christian artists is getting the victory without the cross Contentment as a superpower — and why suffering is how you get it KB's new album This Cannot Be Sold and what's next Quo — the modern phone system built for how your team actually works. Calls, texts, and customer conversations all in one place. Try Quo at quo.com/DEEPEND
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