
Show Notes
This year more PR budget than ever has been spent on World Chocolate Day and perhaps for good reason. In this episode, Vicki and Tash, alongside Nick Brown from Cook & Nelson unpack the complexities of the chocolate industry, exploring how prices are set, the impact of supply chain exploitation, and what consumers can do to make informed choices. And why we don't. Discover how sustainability and fairness are shaping the future of chocolate. Main Topics: The rising cost of chocolate and the factors behind price increases The exploitation at the root of the cocoa industry, including child labor and deforestation How premium chocolate brands like Tony's are addressing systemic issues and promoting ethical sourcing The challenges of consumer education and how to navigate fair trade certifications The impact of consumer choices on systemic change and market dynamics Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: The state of the chocolate industry and what influences prices 02:10 - The impact of cocoa price fluctuations and future price trends 04:15 - Shrinkflation and the decreasing amount of chocolate in bars 06:00 - Will quality and flavor change as prices rise? 07:15 - The fundamental issue of fair wages and exploitation in cocoa farming 09:00 - Tony's approach to ethical sourcing and transparency 12:00 - The role of big chocolate companies and how they can eliminate slavery 14:00 - How companies like Tony's invest in sustainable farming and community initiatives 16:00 - Navigating certifications like Fair Trade and greenwashing risks 17:40 - The importance of traceability and local production in New Zealand 19:00 - Consumer influence: balancing guilt, virtue, and affordability 21:00 - The influence of chocolate scorecards and transparency initiatives 22:20 - How consumer behavior is shifting and the role of online shopping 25:00 - The importance of flavor and quality over price in consumer choices 27:00 - The ongoing challenges of the cost of living and premium chocolate consumption 29:00 - The real cost of cheap chocolate and the exploitation behind it 32:00 - Reframing the value of high-quality, ethical chocolate Resources & Links: Tony's Chocolonely — Leaders in sustainable and slave-free chocolate sourcing Fair Trade Certification — Ensuring fair wages and ethical labor practices Chocolate Scorecard NZ — Transparency ratings for brands in Aotearoa New Zealand FairChain Sourcing Model — Ethical supply chain practices promoting systemic change • The Cocoa Barometer — Reports on transparency and systemic issues in cocoa industry
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