Jacques Vallée: 60 Years of UFO Secrets, Science, and a Final Search for Truth

In December of 1973, a man living in the Belgian city of Vilvoorde experienced something truly anomalous. In the middle of the night, he spotted a strange, luminous humanoid entity which took off in a flying saucer.

Ryan takes a deep dive into Out of the Shadows, the new book from former Pentagon UFO investigator, Jay Stratton. From alleged recovered alien spacecraft and non-human bodies to secret reverse-engineering programs, encounters with extraterrestrial beings, and government cover-ups, Stratton makes some extraordinary claims. But does he provide the evidence to back them up, or does his book raise more questions than answers?

In this episode of Somewhere in the Skies Classics, Ryan speaks with Brian Bethel, the man behind one of the earliest and most chilling accounts of the Black-Eyed Kids. In 1996, Bethel was sitting alone in his car in Abilene, Texas, when two young boys approached asking for a ride. Something about them filled him with overwhelming fear, then he saw their completely black eyes. Bethel recounts the terrifying encounter, how his story spread across the early internet and helped ignite the BEK phenomenon, and what he believes may lurk behind those dark, soulless eyes.

Ryan and Suzanne are back with the latest UFO news, including 3 new whistleblowers who recently came forward in a new Steven Greer documentary about military UFO encounters. Then, they share 4 UFO Reddit stories about other military encounters that defy explanation. From a mysterious craft discovered deep in the jungles of Vietnam and soldiers opening fire on a UFO in Iraq, to 90 minutes of missing time and the shocking recovery of an alleged alien body at a U.S. Air Force base. Are these extraordinary military encounters evidence of something otherworldly, or is there more to these stories than meets the eye?

We are joined by author and researcher, Peter Robbins, to investigate the mysterious death of James Forrestal, America's first Secretary of Defense. On May 22nd, 1949, Forrestal plunged from the sixteenth floor of Bethesda Naval Hospital, sparking decades of controversy and conspiracy theories. With alleged ties to Majestic 12, a rumored secret government group investigating crashed UFOs, questions remain. Did Forrestal know too much about UFOs and extraterrestrial technology? Was his death a tragic suicide, or was something far more sinister at play?