Shell Boss Wael Sawan on Tough Calls, Regret and Leading Through Uncertainty
Leaders with Francine LacquaShow Notes
Shell Chief Executive Officer Wael Sawan joins Francine Lacqua to discuss the oil major's controversial strategy around the energy transition, and fostering a culture that shifts from “all-knowing” to “all-learning.” He reflects on navigating volatility in the global energy system, emphasizing disciplined decision-making and focusing on what leaders can influence going forward. This interview was recorded on Dec. 11, 2025 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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