Attaching to God: Neuroscience-informed Spiritual Formation

When God Seems Distant: From Dry Seasons to Spiritual Growth (with Kyle Strobel)

Attaching to God: Neuroscience-informed Spiritual Formation

Show Notes

Host Geoff Holsclaw interviews Dr. Kyle Strobel (Institute for Spiritual Formation, Talbot School of Theology) about his book When God Seems Distant: Surprising Ways God Deepens Our Faith and Draws Us Near. Kyle explains “early consolation” as a common season where God gives pleasure and zeal that can mask unformed character, and how this can be followed by “the desert” where these early consolations are removed. But these seasons are God’s gift to reveal the heart and grow love. ...

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