
Ep 52 - Do the Numbers Stack Up? Organic and Regenerative Farming with Kenneth & Rachel Short and Mark & Laura Koopmans
From The Soil Up PodcastShow Notes
In this special episode, Conan shares his panel from the 2026 Underground Festival, joined by two farming families who've put their money where their values are. Kenneth and Rachel Short are organic dairy farmers from Taranaki, and Mark and Laura Koopmans run a sheep and beef operation out of Kaikoura. From the drivers behind their decisions to the honesty conversations around financials, the challenges, and the opportunities ahead, this is an honest, on-the-ground conversation about what regenerative and organic farming looks like in practice. Please note: this episode was recorded live at the Underground Festival with audience Q&A, so there may be moments where crowd questions are difficult to hear. https://www.undergroundfestival.co.nz/
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