Show Notes
Jay Caspian Kang is a staff writer for The New Yorker and a co-host of Time to Say Goodbye. “At some point, you have to kick it out the door, and it’s never finished to the degree that you would finish a magazine piece. But it, in some ways, is more interesting because it is produced in a short amount of time, and it’s read as something that is not supposed to be complete. It’s just meant to provoke or to provide thought or whatever, to provide some sort of context on a certain issue or not. And I actually like that a lot better than the magazine writing. I respect the magazine writers—obviously, I was one—but for my disposition now, in my lifestyle, I actually enjoy having to produce this thing every week.” Have a question for the mailbag? Email the show or leave a voicemail at (929) 333-2908. Show notes:
@jaycaspiankang
Kang on Longform
Kang on Longform Podcast (Oct 2021)
Kang on Longform Podcast (Aug 2017)
Kang on Longform Podcast (Apr 2013)
Kang’s New Yorker archive
06:00 Coin Talk
08:00 Tyler Austin Harper’s Atlantic archive
10:00 Serial
12:00 The Daily
20:00 “The High Is Always the Pain and the Pain Is Always the High” (The Morning News • Oct 2010)
28:00 James (Percival Everett • Doubleday • 2024)
34:00 “American Son” (ESPN • July 2024)
35:00 Kang’s VICE archive
42:00 “Mike Francesa Still Believes in the Power of Radio” (New York Times • Aug 2018)
43:00 Kang’s Grantland archive
43:00 Kang’s New York Times archive
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