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Hello! We’re back with another episode and another guest. This week we are joined by poetry anthology Queen, Ana Sampson. There’s very little about poetry anthologies that Ana doesn’t know. In the introduction to this episode I say that Ana has edited 16 anthologies, apparently it is more like 19. Yep, 19. These include the two neon-covered beauties, "‘She Is Fierce’ and ‘She Will Rise’ (both books that I have gifted to friends in the past), ‘Night Feeds & Mornings Songs’ and her latest, ‘You Can Do It With a Broken Heart’. She has also had an impressive 25-year career in book publishing and publicity. As you can imagine we had a long list of questions and struggled to condense our conversation down to under an hour. But condense it down we did. In this episode Ana and Steph talk Nunlit (seriously, who knew, not me), there are TONS of great book recommendations and of course, poetry choices by someone who knows the poetry world VERY well. Ana’s gorgeous newest anthology, ‘You Can Do It With a Broken Heart’, is out now, and we can confirm, it’s another beauty. Not just for anyone currently broken-hearted (though it will work it’s magic if you are), there are poems by both older and more contemporary poets and it finishes with a perfect section titled, ‘A New Dawn’. Steph and I both LOVE an anthology - they are like the gateway drug into poetry. The perfect option when you’re not exactly sure what you like or what you need. My book shelf is full of them. Tell us, are you the same? Do you have any favourite anthologies that we might need? And do let us know how you find this episode. Hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did… Nelly and Steph x

Ok, this is a vulnerable one. It’s Episode Three and I think this is the one where we find our flow; in terms of the depth of conversation we are hoping to have when it’s just us two. In this episode we talk about how parenting teenagers is way harder than we expected (and reflect on the early days of motherhood when you’re writing poems in the middle of the night), how sharing your art does feel pretty daunting (especially at first) and why we should all make time to go back and celebrate the projects we completed years ago (why not?!) Along the way we share poems (yes, one made us both cry), talk about publishing our first collections and discuss how writing your truths (even if uncomfortable) does lead to some magical places. Oh and Steph makes me laugh so hard in the first five minutes that it’s a wonder I carried on. As always, we’d love to know how you found this episode. Send us a message, say hello over on Instagram or leave us a review why don’t you. THANK YOU. Loads of love Nelly and Steph x

Join us for our very first guest on the podcast. Jillian Stacia shares a selection of her poems with us, plus tells us about her new poetry collection, ‘Set the Bone’. In this conversation we talk about poetry as a way to tell difficult truths and remain fully alive in an unstable world. We absolutely love how Jillian writes so candidly about marriage, motherhood, anxiety and the pressures placed on women - even though that honesty might make people feel uncomfortable. Both Steph and I had numerous page folds and post-it notes on our copies of the book! It’s a great read and hopefully, a great listen. The poems we read on the podcast today are: * ‘I remember’ by Anne Sexton, ‘The Complete Poems: Anne Sexton’ * ‘I worried’ by Mary Oliver, ‘Devotions’ , published by Little brown book group * ‘Small Kindnesses’ by Danusha Laméris, ‘Bonfire Opera’ published by University of Pittsburgh Press * ‘The Conditional’ by Ada Limón, ‘Bright dead things’ published by Milkweed Editions * ‘You Can Fight Fascism in a Feather Boa’ - Jillian Stacia, ‘Set the Bone’ published by Arcana Poetry Press. Jillian Stacia Do let us know how you found this episode. Also any shares, likes, reviews would be SO very welcome. Nelly and Steph x

Happy National Poetry Day! Presumably you’ve had a beautiful poem read to you over breakfast this morning? Oh, you haven’t? Fear not, we’ve got you covered, because today is also the launch day for the Poetry Over Patriarchy podcast and we have our very first official episode of Season One for you. In this episode we pick our own favourite poems by way of introducing ourselves as hosts. Listen out for a particularly magical moment towards the end when we can only apologise for the pitch of our joint giddiness. The theme for this years National Poetry Day was ‘wonder’ and we had BIG plans to write something about our personal experiences with a Wonderbra. Turns out that editing a podcast series takes a little longer than we expected! So, we’re just going to throw that out into the Universe and see what you got? It’s all yours. Write what you will - and come back and share with us please. Also, do let us know which (if any) of the poems we share in this episode are your favourite. Or any other thoughts / comments / ideas after listening. REALLY hope you like it, Nelly and Steph x

Hello!!! It’s been a crazy busy few weeks for us. We’ve recorded the first two episodes of the podcast, spoken to our first ever guest (it even more fun than we imagined, we cannot wait to share it with you), and we’ve figured out how to make a trailer (see above). There’s been the steep learning curve on how to use editing software, looking for jingles (is that the right word, we’ve not chosen one yet) and A LOT of pre-reading for future guests (a lot of fun). At least every third sentence we say is, “OH, we should talk about THAT on the podcast” - whether THAT is the friendships that keep us sane, the ‘interesting’ relationships we have certain other women in our lives, or whether we’re having good sex (deep breath for when we tackle that subject, haha). And ALL the poetry that is guiding us into these conversations - conversations that we hope you might want to join us in having. Anyway, if you’ve already subscribed THANK YOU. And if you haven’t, COME ON, come play. Subscribing is the way we’ll tell you when the first episode goes live on THURSDAY 1st OCTOBER and when all other episodes land. Plus we’re writers first and foremost, so we do plan to share more via the written ‘page’ - poems that we didn’t have time for during the podcast episodes, other behind the scenes chat etc. This week in particular (after an IG post we did was flagged as entirely AI content- ermmmmm???) we’ve been musing on what poems make us feel most ALIVE during this crazy new era we’ve entered. An era where artists have their art stolen by Ai, then have to try and prove that the art they are creating ISN’T Ai, by using Ai. Is your head hurting? Ours are. Anyway, if you have any poems to share with us, please do in the comments. We’ll take all we can get…. Hope you like the trailer. Nelly and Steph x