Show Notes
Barnaby Joyce joins Amanda Copp for the latest episode of POLITICO’s Canberra Playbook podcast, arguing the Liberals can’t win without One Nation and predicting the two parties will eventually strike a deal. Joyce discusses missing the Nationals, his relationship with Pauline Hanson, and whether One Nation has gone mainstream.
POLITICO Australia editor Ryan Heath joins Amanda to unpack a mood of grievance in Canberra and why politicians seem to be swearing more.
Chapters00:00 – Catch up with Amanda Copp and Ryan Heath 00:46 – The aggrieved mood in Canberra01:22 – Why politicians are swearing more03:29 – Can the Liberals win without One Nation?04:59 – Barnaby Joyce on One Nation’s appeal to business06:12 – Productivity and replacing public servants with AI07:12 – Division bells interrupt the interview07:27 – Migration policy and recession08:56 – Internet censorship and the US execution live stream10:24 – Gas reservation and energy prices11:30 – Barnaby’s relationship with Pauline Hanson12:59 – Reflections on leaving the Nationals12:35 – Ryan and Amanda debrief
Give us your feedback: Send us a WhatsApp message to +61 494 380 487 or an email at [email protected].
Subscribe to Canberra Playbook: Get POLITICO’s reporting and analysis of Australian politics delivered to your inbox at politico.com/canberra-playbook.
More from The Canberra Playbook Podcast
Treasurer Jim Chalmers joins Amanda Copp to discuss threats against politicians, security funding and the economic pressures facing Australia. He explains how rising global bond yields could add billions to the cost of government debt.
After the attack on Independent MP Helen Haines, Amanda Copp and POLITICO Australia Editor Ryan Heath discuss the security risks facing people in public life.
Former Industry Minister and outspoken backbencher, Ed Husic, joins Amanda Copp to argue that Australia needs to move from AI inquiries to action. He also has some frank words for the Prime Minister on how Labor handles disagreement. Here’s a taste… “If you cannot argue points of view within a cabinet or a caucus, how are you supposed to argue them outside?”
Amanda Copp is joined by POLITICO’s Canberra Playbook editor Paul Karp to unpack a busy week in Parliament and the hurdles facing Labor to get laws passed. They discuss the stalled negotiations over online safety reform and hear from eSafety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant on why platforms should have to build safety into their services from the start.
Australia's communications minister Anika Wells joins Amanda Copp for the debut episode of POLITICO's Canberra Playbook Podcast, revealing where she's prepared to compromise to get her landmark digital duty of care legislation through Parliament. Wells discusses negotiations with the Coalition and Greens, the limits of ministerial powers and why tech companies must take greater responsibility for online harms. She forcefully rejects accusations of censorship.