Ravinder Bhogal Chats Food Without Borders, Butter Love, and Swearing Parrots
The Filling with Anna BarnettShow Notes
EPISODE SYNOPSIS For Ravinder Bhogal, cook, writer & restaurant owner, food storytelling is an integral part of her work ethos and what drives the flavour combinations that make it to her menus. In this inspiring episode of The Filling podcast, Ravinder explains to Anna Barnett that restaurants are spaces for humanity where you see the spectrum of emotions, and if you can understand someone’s food you can understand their culture. Ravinder’s is a life story packed with exploration, rule-breaking, community, and a sense of belonging. And not forgetting seriously delicious food. EPISODE NOTES 01:40 – 05:15) Lockdown has been tough for all sectors of the hospitality business, however Ravinder has channelled that frustration into ‘Comfort & Joy’, her catering initiative for Kings College Hospital and the Nishkam Swat foundation. Here she explains the concept and inception. 14:30 – 17:00) As a former journalist, words play an important part in Ravinder’s life and love of food. Here she delicately explains how words and food entwine and how her dishes are stories with no ending. 28:00 – 30:00) Ravinder describes her flavour combinations as ‘mongrel cuisine’ or food with no borders. Her cultural heritage means she naturally wants to combine her Indian roots with her Kenyan and British upbringing. She Ravinder details how this cultural integrations manifests in her cooking. 34:30 – 37:00) In an emotionally detailed section, Ravinder recounts arriving in South London from India and the cultural shock that awaited her. It wasn’t an easy passage. The idea of Jikoni became a utopian ideal where cultures combined and where she could belong. 44:00 – 46:30) This wonderfully loving section details Ravinder’s admiration for her pioneering grandfather who left India in the 1930’s to set up a new life in Kenya. 47:00 – 50:00) Familial expectations for an Indian girl are examined here. Ravinder was the first girl in her family to be allowed a university education. But did she study what was expected of her? 53:00 – 55:00) As a self-described ‘non chefy chef’, Ravinder is not immune to a little self-doubt. So praise from eminent names such as AA Gill and Nigella Lawson is enormously rewarding. Listen in to hear how AA Gill described Ravinder’s cooking. TOP QUOTES “Writing is a huge passion; words are as important as food; words move me to tears and so can food.” Ravinder “Do I take out an injunction or do I marry him?” Ravinder (on her husband) “Nothing can replace good old fashioned hard work.” Ravinder “It’s a very ‘come to mama’ kind of dish.” Ravinder (on her Scragan Pie) “I think it’s a social responsibility for restaurants to have flattering lighting.” Anna “I’m Punjabi; we don’t have blood; we have butter in our veins.” Ravinder
RESOURCES www.ravinderbhogal.com www.jikonilondon.com www.lalaniandco.com www.wildpressjuice.com www.swatlondon.com
ABOUT THE GUEST Ravinder Bhogal is a food writer, restaurateur, cook, journalist, and stylist. Born in Kenya to Punjabi parents, Ravinder moved to South London with her family when she was 7. Her mixed heritage background blends deliciously with her natural passion for food and cooking, and her work and food spans flavours and culinary traditions from the Far East, India & South Asia, the Middle East, East Africa, and Britain. Ravinder often cites the celebration of immigrant cuisine as her cooking style. Ravinder first came to prominence in 2005 when she won the TV cooking competition, The F Word, judged by Gordon Ramsay and Angela Hartnett. She opened her first restaurant Jikoni in Marylebone, London in September 2016.Ravinder has written several...
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