Show Notes
In this episode of The Marketing Clubhouse, we’re joined by Duncan Shand, CEO of independent creative agency YoungShand and one of New Zealand’s strongest voices on brave, challenger-brand marketing.
Duncan doesn’t believe in playing it safe - in fact, he thinks it’s the fastest way to disappear.
We unpack why so many brands fall into “safe” marketing, how the industry became addicted to short-term promotions, and what it actually takes to create work that sticks emotionally and commercially.
From defining the line between bold and reckless, to building teams and clients that back brave ideas, this conversation is a call-out (and a call-up) for marketers who know there’s a better way than discount-led growth.
What we cover in this episode What “playing it safe” actually looks like in modern marketing Why brands get hooked on the “drug of promotion” — and the long-term cost The difference between bold ideas and reckless ones How challenger brands can stand out without massive budgets A real example of a campaign that felt risky — and what happened next Where brands should start if they want to shift from short-term to long-term thinking How to build team and client cultures that support brave creative
You should listen if you're tired of discount-driven marketing and short-term thinking, you’re working on a challenger brand and need to stand out without a huge budget, or you’re trying to push for braver ideas in a room that defaults to “safe.”
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