USA Hockey: Next Generation

Growing the Game from the Ground Up with Matt Herr

USA Hockey: Next Generation

Show Notes

Episode Description: Matt Herr, the NHL’s Senior Director of Youth Hockey and Industry Growth Fund, joins the USA Hockey Next Generation podcast to explain why the league is investing in Learn to Play and NHL Ready to Play. Hosts Lyndsey Fry and Drew Shore talk with him about the NHL and USA Hockey partnership, keeping the base of the pyramid wide, and why the real goal for parents is a kid who still loves the game. The episode also covers coaching, volunteering, street hockey, refereeing, and work ethic.Key Points from This Episode:0:06 Welcome and host catch-up3:10 Matt's playing career and path to the NHL5:44 How the NHL supports USA Hockey, including the Industry Growth Fund7:26 Why the NHL moved into grassroots and NHL Ready to Play9:27 Coaching every player differently, and why you don't want to be a player's last coach11:27 Parents who can't skate and the many volunteer roles12:54 Keeping the pyramid wide and the NHL's growth in new markets16:08 No rush:parent anxiety and the real ROI17:59 Street hockey and other ways to love the game20:16 Why Matt took up refereeing23:15 The funniest Learn to Play moment24:13 Playing in Germany and the NHL's international growth25:09 How parents and players can help their programs26:55 Hosts' takeawaysLinks:USA Hockey - ⁠⁠https://www.usahockey.com⁠⁠ Drew Shore - ⁠https://www.drewshore.com⁠⁠ Lyndsey Fry - ⁠⁠https://fryhockey.com/⁠

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