
Show Notes
Katy Bowman is joined by psychologists Dr Diana Hill and Dr Kelly McGonigal. Katy and Diana have co-written a new book I know I should Exercise But… 44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them and they came together with Kelly, author of the The Joy of Movement, to talk about personal obstacles to movement, movement frameworks & vocabulary and how to find your ‘movement genius’.
In our second feature Katy welcomes author and masters athlete Brad Kearns, to talk about the minimalist five-toed shoe company Peluva, one of our podcast sponsors. Brad shares the early history of the company and how you go about making a minimalist shoe. Katy and Brad discuss the niche that Peluva fills in the minimal shoe market and Brad shares his favourite customer success stories.
Enhanced Show Notes & Full Transcript Chapters: 00:06:25 - Conversation with Katy, Diana, and Kelly 00:17:00 - Struggles and Motivation - grief, neurotype, perimenopause, pain and more 00:34:45 - Jeannette and Katy Summarize 00:38:00 - Listener question brought to you by Movemate 00:51:30 - Interview with Brad Kearns of Peluva
Books & Articles Mentioned: I Know I Should Exercise But…44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman The Joy of Movement by Kelly McGonigal Born to Walk by Mark Sisson with Brad Kearns Connect, Move & Learn: Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!
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