Cyber Risk Management Podcast

EP 204: Carpets and Diamonds

Cyber Risk Management Podcast

Show Notes

Most cybersecurity people talk at CFOs instead of with them. What if there were a simple test to know when a CFO wants to learn about cyber risk versus when they just need someone to trust? Let's find out with our guest James Wheeler, a highly experienced CFO who now runs kept.pro, providing fractional accounting teams to businesses across the country. Your hosts are Kip Boyle, CISO with Cyber Risk Opportunities, and Jake Bernstein, Partner with K&L Gates.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesdavidwheeler/

"Fire Doesn't Innovate" by Kip Boyle: https://a.co/d/0bYatohy

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