ASCO in Action Podcast

Are Pharmacy Benefit Managers Putting Personal Profits Ahead of Patient Access?

ASCO in Action Podcast

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Welcome to this ASCO in Action Podcast. This is ASCO's monthly podcast series where we explore policy and practice issues that impact oncologists, the entire cancer care delivery, and, most importantly, the individuals we care for-- people with cancer. My name is Cliff Hudis and I'm the CEO of ASCO, as well as the host of the ASCO in Action Podcast series. For today's podcast, I am delighted to welcome Dr. Ray Page who's chair of ASCO's clinical practice committee as our guest today. Ray was recently awarded the prestigious ASCO Advocate of the Year Award for his exceptional efforts to shape health care policies to have a direct impact on our ability to provide high-quality cancer care for our patients. Our conversation today is going to focus on one of those policy-related issues that Ray has spent so much time on, and it's an area of growing concern to all oncology practices, that is, the emergence of pharmacy benefit managers in the cancer care delivery system. Now some of you will know that ASCO recently released a position statement on pharmacy benefit managers, or PBMs, as they're known, specifically focusing on their impact on cancer care. And as a little bit of background on this, in terms of policy work, ASCO has a formal process for vetting and adopting the society's policy priorities. Typically, we will develop and release a position or policy statement when we learn about an issue or a development that is impacting, or may, in the future, have an impact, on the delivery of and access to cancer care. We determined that a position statement was necessary on PBMs because serious concerns were being raised by our members through our state affiliate council, our clinical practice committee, and in direct conversation with other ASCO leaders. So as we often do, we analyze the issue carefully. We gather evidence, such as is available. We describe the issue. And, then, most importantly, we identified steps that could be taken to at least begin to address the challenges. The result was the ASCO position statement on "Pharmacy Benefit Managers and Their Impact on Cancer Care." So with that as background, I want to turn and welcome Dr. Page. And thank you for joining me today to discuss this important topic. Welcome. Thank you, Cliff, for having me here today. Great. So I want to start off with a level set, Ray. Some who may be listening today may not be familiar with PBMs, what and who they are, or what purpose they serve. Can you give a general overview of pharmacy benefit managers? How do they work? Sure, Cliff. In its simplest form, a pharmacy benefit manager, or PBM, is a middleman company that was originally utilized by payers as a third-party manager of prescription drug claims. Why did these companies ever come into being in the first place? Well, this largely developed out of the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003 and when the Medicare Part D program for oral drugs was implemented in 2006. Cliff, I believe that they had good original intent, as their primary objective was the simplification of the transactions between pharmacies and health plan sponsors. However, over time, they have evolved to where they now include a variety of new business functions in an effort to better manage drug benefits and reduce the overall drug spending cost for plan sponsors. They claim that they're controllers of cost but, in reality, they have created huge and extremely complex business relationships to where they now have put personal profits before patients. So how extensive is the PBM system? And has it increased in the last few years? And if so, why? Yeah. Today, PBMs are ubiquitous. They were involved in the transaction of several hundred billion dollars of drugs across the United States. PBMs control the pharmacy benefits of over 253 million Americans. What is concerning is after numerous acquisitions and consolidations, and this is often called horizontal integration, there are now only three behemoth companies that co

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