Under the Lens

Reimagining Biosecurity: What biological data could do for our biosecurity system

Under the Lens

Show Notes

Biology has changed. The amount of biological data we can now collect has exploded, from automated sensors at our borders to genomic data tracking where pests come from. But are we maximising the opportunities to gather insight that this data could offer?

In this episode computational biologist Dr Murray Cox joins Amanda and Peter to explore what biological data could do for our biosecurity system. His answer might surprise you. It is not about more sophisticated technology. It is about fixing the structure underneath all of it.

If you could reimagine the biosecurity system in Aotearoa, what would that look like? Murray has a view. And it is simpler than you might think.

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Chapters:

00:00 Rethinking Biosecurity Structure 00:51 Podcast Intro and Guest 02:08 Data Transforming Biosecurity 02:45 Where Bio Data Comes From 03:40 What Counts as Data 05:48 Linking Messy Datasets 08:06 Ownership Privacy and Access 10:07 LINZ and Open Data Model 12:55 Why Data Stays Siloed 14:07 Benefits of Integration 16:57 Genomics and Global Sharing 19:27 NZ Examples and Duplication 22:26 Asking Better Questions 25:36 AI as Literature Scout 28:52 Access and Secure AI Systems 29:45 National LLM Reality Check 30:18 AI Hype and Job Fears 30:57 AI for Specific Tasks 33:07 Proactive Biosecurity Future 34:20 Fragmented System Fix 36:48 Data Differences Don’t Matter 38:03 Genetics for Border Breaches 41:00 Windborne Threats and Surveillance 43:03 Cost Benefit and Cheaper Tech 44:14 Commercial Data and Access 46:52 Federated Data Ecosystem 49:50 Structural Reform and Models 51:06 Closing Thanks Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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