The Empowering Neurologist Podcast

Why Your Brain Feels Broken: The Metabolic Truth Behind Burnout and Depression with Dr. Robin Berzin | E217

The Empowering Neurologist Podcast

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🧠 Stay ahead with the latest in science, nutrition, and wellness by subscribing to Dr. Perlmutter’s newsletter at: www.drperlmutter.com. ✉️🌱Thank you to our sponsors: EVY - Go to https://www.optoceutics.com/perlmutter to get $200 off & free shipping (90 days risk-free). 3X4 Genetics - https://3X4genetics.com/DrPerlmutterfor a special offer when you sign up to decode your genetics and get personalized, science-backed health recommendations. ==== Dr. Perlmutter’s groundbreaking new book, Brain Defenders, is now available for pre-order. Discover how to protect your brain and future health - reserve your copy today at https://www.braindefenders.com. ==== What if your anxiety, brain fog, and burnout aren't mental health problems, but metabolic ones?In this episode, Dr. Robin Berzin joins Dr. David Perlmutter to make the case that the brain and body are not separate systems, and that treating them as if they are is costing millions of people their health. ==== 00:00 - Introduction 00:46 - Brain Defenders: A New Framework for Brain Health 03:00 - Welcoming Dr. Robin Berzin 05:23 - Why Smart, Motivated People Still Feel Terrible 08:37 - From Columbia Med to Founding Parsley Health 12:15 - The Problem With 15-Minute Appointments and Stacks of Prescriptions 14:37 - What Is Functional Medicine, Actually? 17:07 - Precision Medicine: Treating the N of One 19:45 - How AI Is Changing the Doctor's Ability to Connect the Dots 22:41 - State Change: Shifting Your Mind Through Your Body 25:35 - Why Anxiety and Depression Start in the Body 27:09 - 40 Hz Light Therapy and Cognitive Decline 29:43 - Exercise, Sugar, and Nutrient Deficiencies as Mental Health Levers 32:30 - SSRIs as a Tow Truck, Not a Destination 34:16 - Psychedelics and Trauma: Tools in the Toolkit 36:01 - Metabolic Flexibility and Why Losing It Wrecks Your Hormones 38:04 - Sleep, Wearables, and the One Night That Breaks Your Metabolism 40:37 - Continuous Glucose Monitors as a Mirror for Your Choices 42:19 - 3X4 Genetics: Your DNA Is a Roadmap, Not a Verdict 44:37 - Alzheimer's as Type 3 Diabetes: The Metabolic Brain Connection 46:21 - The Lab Work Your Doctor Isn't Ordering 49:22 - Fasting Insulin, Heavy Metals, and the Tests That Actually Matter 51:14 - What's Next: AI, Wearables, and the Future of Functional Medicine 53:56 - If You Feel Stuck: Own Your Biological Data 55:34 - Closing Thoughts ==== Dr. Robin Berzin, MD is a functional medicine physician and health tech entrepreneur leading the push to bring root-cause, precision medicine into mainstream healthcare. She earned her MD at Columbia, completed internal medicine residency at Mount Sinai, and trained in functional medicine under the field's top practitioners. Before medicine, she produced the Oprah and Friends Dr. Oz Radio Show, and she later worked in health tech during med school, sharpening her understanding of how digital platforms could expand access to personalized care.Today, she is founder and CEO of Parsley Health, the only national functional and longevity medicine clinic in the U.S., delivering virtual care across all 50 states plus physical clinics in NYC and LA. Under her leadership, Parsley has grown to nearly 30 clinicians and 40 health coaches and nurses, treated over 50,000 patients, and built a team-based, insurance-accessible model that puts functional medicine within reach beyond the wealthy. She also sits on the medical advisory board of Whoop.She is the author of State Change, which challenges the divide between mental and metabolic health and offers a practical framework for transforming mood, energy, and cognition through the body. Her work is widely featured across major health and wellness media, and she is recognized as a defining voice in the future of preventive, personalized medicine. ==== Instagram: / davidperlmutter Website: https://www.drperlmutter.com/ Subscribe to our channel:/ @davidperlmuttermd

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