Show Notes
This final episode of 2025 reflects on a year of transitions and healing, focusing on themes of intergenerational trauma, collective grief, and social justice, especially in the context of the ongoing genocide in Gaza. Through diverse voices including Dr. Gabor Maté, Naomi Klein, Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb, Ashira Darwish, Omid Safi, Kazu Haga, and others, the episode delves into personal and collective fields of healing. It emphasizes the importance of remembering, ritualizing healing, community action, indigenous knowledge, and a para-politics of grief and relationship. The episode also highlights the significance of interconnectedness, resilience, and the continuous effort towards justice and transformation.
Topics and Speakers
00:00 Introduction and Year in Review
02:03 Minds Under Siege: Dr. Gabor Mate and Naomi Klein
17:38 We Will Not Look Away: Vigil for Gaza with Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb, Ashira Darwish and Omid Safi
37:33 Fierce Vulnerability: Kazu Haga
46:16 Belonging Without Othering: john a. powell
50:51 The Limits of Solution-Driven Thinking: Bayo Akomolafe
55:47 Complexity and Phase Transitions: Jeremy Lent
01:02:03 Intergenerational Trauma and Healing: Jungwon Kim and Linda Thai
01:18:40 Generational Trauma and Community Healing: Dr. Thema Bryant
01:23:16 Decolonizing Therapy and Ancestral Healing: Dr. Jennifer Mullan
01:26:30 Indigenous Perspectives on Colonization and Wellbeing: Dr. Diana Kopua, Tina Ngata and Mark Kopua
01:40:30 Plant Medicine and Connection to Nature: Donna Kerridge
01:53:07 Grief, Ritual, and Communal Healing: Orland Bishop and Francis Weller
02:02:39 Presence and Receptive Awareness: John J. Prendergast
02:09:26 Conclusion and Membership Invitation
Links
Naomi Klein
Dr. Gabor Maté
Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb
Omid Safi
Kazu Haga
john a. Powell
Bayo Akomolafe
Jeremy Lent
Jungwon Kim
Linda Thai
Dr. Thema Bryant
Dr. Jennifer Mullan
Te Kurahuna (Mark and Dr. Diana Kopua)
Tina Ngata
Francis Weller
Orland Bishop
John Prendergast
Where Olive Trees Weep
The Eternal Song (Film series and course)
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