Shubz Says So

118 | Could Splitting Your Vote Change the Government? Harry Mowbray Explains

Shubz Says So

Show Notes

Could splitting your vote change who holds power? Harry Mowbray joins Shubz to explain his split-vote campaign and why he believes some centre-right voters should back National in their electorate and give their party vote to ACT or NZ First. We question his assumptions about electorate wins, overhang seats and what happens if the numbers don’t fall his way. ACT candidate Callum Sheridan returns with stories from thousands of doors out west. What are voters actually saying, how does that compare with the noise at candidate meetings, and why is he putting his hand up? Plus, Rotorua councillor Robert Lee is back for another yarn about local government, council representation and the issues getting people talking. Shubz also reflects on the journey so far, responds to community questions and explains his decision to walk away from a confrontation during the Heal the Nation kaupapa. CHAPTERS 0:00 Opening remarks 1:17 Setting up the livestream 5:56 Political guest introductions 13:27 Reflecting on the journey 22:12 Addressing community questions 28:25 Robert Lee interview 34:44 Local government and wider political discussion 44:40 Wrapping up with Robert Lee 51:45 Introducing Callum Sheridan 54:42 Callum Sheridan — campaigning and conversations with voters 1:18:25 Harry Mowbray — split voting and MMP 1:45:40 Closing discussion and reflections Shubz Says So | Episode 118 Subscribe, share it with the whānau and have your say in the comments. For all inquiries: [email protected]

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