128 | Born in Gloriavale. Left at 37. Now Running for Parliament

Isaac Nicholson spent the first 37 years of his life in Gloriavale. Then he and his wife decided their children deserved a different future.

Now standing for NZ First, Isaac shares his account of leaving the community, the psychological pressure to stay and rebuilding life with almost nothing. He explains the moment involving his teenage daughter that helped settle their decision — and how that journey eventually led him into politics.

Before that, Rotorua councillor Robert Lee returns with his account of being ordered out of the council chamber. He explains his objections to a reserve administration transfer, the lease income he says ratepayers stand to lose and the potential conflicts of interest he raised.

We also discuss the Rotorua Museum, council accountability, free speech, immigration and the election ahead.

CHAPTERS 0:00 Opening banter and updates 2:19 Responding to criticism and public questions 5:17 Election outlook 10:31 Robert Lee — council experiences and accountability 21:49 Conflict-of-interest questions and being ordered out 33:40 Reserve transfers, lease income and Rotorua Museum 40:08 Political debate and audience questions 47:22 Immigration and societal values 58:36 Election views and closing thoughts with Robert Lee 1:09:01 Isaac Nicholson — leaving Gloriavale and standing for NZ First

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