#128 - Meet the Neuroscientist Proving Scientists Got Conscious Ai WRONG

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Paul Cisek is a control neuroscientist at the University of Montreal who records from single neurons in the brains of monkeys as they think, and who has spent decades reconstructing how the brain evolved across hundreds of millions of years. His verdict cuts against everything Silicon Valley believes: the brain was never a computer — it's a control system built to keep a body alive, and the most advanced AI on Earth understands nothing it says. Expect to learn why Richard Dawkins is wrong that Claude could be conscious, why every era wrongly compares the brain to its fanciest technology, how a baseball outfielder reveals what the brain is really doing, why large language models are "Eliza on steroids" and 100% illusion, where meaning actually comes from and why LLMs can never have it, why the real danger isn't ChatGPT but the agentic systems that come next, whether a paramecium could be conscious, what Michael Levin's neuron-growing biobots tell us about minds, and much more… Timestamps 0:00:00 Trailer 0:02:33 Why Paul Rescheduled to Watch a Monkey Learn 0:06:13 Probing Electrodes Into a Living Brain 0:13:42 What a Single Neuron Actually Sounds Like 0:20:41 The Brain Is Not a Camera Plugged Into a Computer 0:24:55 How an Outfielder Catches a Ball Without Doing Physics 0:33:24 Why Federer "Lets the Cerebellum Run the Show" 0:38:09 Richard Dawkins Says Claude Might Be Conscious 0:39:11 Every Era Thinks the Brain Is Its Latest Gadget 0:42:36 Why AI Is "Eliza on Steroids" and 100% Illusion 0:45:38 The Mechanical Turk and the Stage Magician 0:48:09 The Mimicry Irony at the Heart of Dawkins' Mistake 0:52:32 The One Thing AlphaFold and ChatGPT Both Lack 0:53:30 Where Meaning Actually Comes From 0:57:55 Language Is Persuasion: The Crying Baby Problem 1:03:14 The Paper With Friston and Clark on What AI Misses 1:04:48 Could You Build a Machine That Wants Things? 1:10:23 Build a Mind, Build a Rival: Do We Even Want To? 1:13:32 Is a Paramecium Conscious? 1:18:11 Why There's No Line Between a Lump of Cells and You 1:23:18 Population Thinking: It's All Continuums 1:30:36 The Mad Scientist Won't Be Sam Altman — It'll Be Michael Levin 1:36:29 Does Synthetic Biology Deserve Its Own Doomsday?1:39:37 Why Real Intelligence Would Be a Competitor We Should Fear 1:43:20 Why the Real World Humbles Every Robot ...

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GS Episodes Mentioned Paul Cisek Round 1: https://youtu.be/C6frE6nj1tY Michael Levin — Meet the Scientist Creating New Forms of Synthetic Life! Dr Michael Levin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTBZRVKUwyM Anil Seth — No. 1 Consciousness Expert: Optical Illusions that Prove Reality is a Lie, Emotions, Books and AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOSA06K0l1o Karl Friston — Meet The Neuroscientist Who Created The Best Universal Theory Of Brain Function: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-IZOFs4qmY Mark Solms — Meet the Scientist Proving Dreams Hold the Key to Consciousness! Dr Mark Solms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMWaQ1U6dcc... Guest Links Paul Cisek — Faculty page, Université de Montréal: https://neurosciences.umontreal.ca/en/our-team/staff-directory/staff/cisek-paul/Cisek Lab: https://www.ciseklab.umontreal.ca/Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Bbk0DEcAAAAJX / Twitter: https://x.com/PaulCisek...