Ep 167. I’ll Try Anything Twice: Recovering from Depression and Addiction, with Carly Schwartz
Behind The Smile with Ash ButterssShow Notes
This week, Ash sits down with Carly Schwartz, author of I’ll Try Anything Twice, to talk about what it really looks like to live through the darkest corners of your own mind and make it out the other side. Carly traces her journey from childhood anxiety to years of depression, substance use, and suicidal ideation, sharing the moments of denial, fear, and quiet desperation that shaped her path.
She opens up about the turning point of finally naming her addiction and the life-changing experience of going to rehab, not as a neat overnight fix, but as the beginning of a very human, very imperfect recovery. Ash and Carly explore the messy middle of healing: the shame that keeps us silent, the relief of being truly seen, and the deep importance of community and storytelling in breaking through isolation.
Throughout their conversation, Carly reflects on what it means to personalise recovery rather than squeeze it into a one-size-fits-all mold. She speaks to the need for flexibility, self-acceptance, and learning to listen to your own needs as they evolve over time. At its heart, this episode is a testament to resilience and connection, a reminder that while recovery is rarely linear, it is always possible, especially when we’re willing to tell the truth, reach out, and let others walk beside us.
Episode chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Carly Schwartz and Her Journey 11:03 The Struggles Behind the Smile 17:09 Childhood Anxiety and Early Signs of Depression 23:20 The Dark Side of Substance Use and Suicidal Ideation 28:26 The Struggle with Substance Use and Denial 32:03 The Turning Point: Seeking Help and Going to Rehab 37:00 Building a New Life in Recovery 45:27 Personalizing Recovery: Finding What Works 51:03 The Power of Community in Recovery
Support Services If this conversation has brought anything up for you, please know you don’t have to go through it alone. Support is always available. You can reach out to Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636 for mental health support and guidance, or the Suicide Call Back Service on 1300 659 467 for free counselling.
Connect with Carly using the links below: Website - https://www.carly.ink/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/carlicita LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlicita/ Goodreads - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/236558341-i-ll-try-anything-twice Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Ill-Anything-Twice-Misadventures-Self-Medicated/dp/B0FD8RPH9L/ Bookshop - https://bookshop.org/p/books/i-ll-try-anything-twice-misadventures-of-a-self-medicated-life-carly-schwartz/591dca26d9b8c510
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