Other People's Money with Max Wiethe

Top Performing Value Investor Explains Why the Market Isn’t Overvalued and Hasn’t Hit the Blowoff Top Phase | Charles Lemonides | ValueWorks LLC

Other People's Money with Max Wiethe

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This episode is brought to you by Sarmaya Partners. Learn more about Sarmaya’s LENS ETF, their full data and comparison, including performance here: https://sarmayaetf.com/

Charles Lemonides, CIO and founder of ValueWorks LLC, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why the 18-year bull market still has room to run. Lemonides argues that we have not yet reached the explosive "liftoff" phase typical of late-stage bull markets and explains why the biggest gains often come right before the turn. He shares his strategy for finding "growth in value's clothing," highlighting high-upside opportunities in semiconductors, rideshare, delivery, and offshore energy. Plus, he breaks down where he sees extreme overvaluation in the market and breaks down his most compelling short positions.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:00 Are We in a Bubble?

04:14 Rates Growth and Bonds

07:04 Value Investing Reframed

09:37 Micron Peak Earnings Debate

11:20 Intel Foundry

15:24 Sarmaya LENS ETF

16:52 Sizing Themes and Diversifying

18:41 Undervalued Challengers: Lyft & Instacart

29:10 Energy Sector Setup

35:40 Portfolio Construction & Shorts

37:47 Shorting Texas Pacific Land Trust

41:24 Royalty Trusts and Mesabi

47:16 Retail Shorts: Casey’s & Grocers

52:43 AI Industrials, Quantum, & Aerospace

55:37 Offshore Wind and Conclusion

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