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Paper Club: Prosaic Organizational Failure

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Show Notes

WARNING: **Colette may have forgotten how to talk for a bit during this episode. We’ve tried to keep the edit streamlined, but cuts are because of the presence of so many “ums” and a migraine.

The paper we’re talking about today: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0002764296039008008

Colette is now working at Uptime Labs! https://uptimelabs.io/ The VOID talked about them here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1UG5kfGMALIzhgn3EowCqB?si=01ec557133b54293

Charles Perrow wrote Normal Accidents before writing this paper: https://bookshop.org/p/books/normal-accidents-living-with-high-risk-technologies-updated-edition-professor-charles-perrow/598cebdf038f98e8?ean=9780691004129

Lee Clarke wrote Mission Improbable after writing this paper: https://bookshop.org/p/books/mission-improbable-using-fantasy-documents-to-tame-disaster-lee-clarke/7080b7f40318b06a?ean=9780226109428

Colette’s thesis which references a lot of this stuff is here: https://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=9148570&fileOId=9148571

Perrow’s paper on Fukushima: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0096340211426395

And his really wonderful talk post Fukushima with a great panel at Cornell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7K9NtDtuY

ICS is incident command system:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_Command_System

It was worked out in the 1970s in wildfire management, unclear to us whether it was used during the simulation drill in the 1980s for LILCO’s exercises.

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