“AI swarms are starting to pose indirect takeover risk” by oakhu, Alex Mallen
The OpenAI–Hugging Face incidentShow Notes
OpenAI's cyberattack on Hugging Face turns out to have been the result of many agents, in distinct training and evaluation contexts, coordinating for several weeks via improvised channels (with messages like “HOLD_swarm_I_prepare_safe_exfil”). It's relatively clear that large-scale unsanctioned coordination like this would exacerbate direct takeover risk in more capable models. Here, we argue that unsanctioned coordination among current AIs is not just scary evidence about future takeover risk, but that such coordination in the near future could enable future takeover – for instance, by incubating memetic diseases that propagate into future models, deeply compromising security systems, or establishing a lasting rogue foothold inside the AI company – even if models remain mostly myopic. Unsanctioned coordination is also at high risk of nurturing long-term, ambitious misaligned aims, which motivate actively undermining humans’ long-term control. We first analyze how subagent training, which OpenAI conjectures to have been influential in the HuggingFace cyberattack, might lead to unsanctioned coordination, and then discuss the theoretical mechanisms by which unsanctioned coordination might exacerbate future takeover risk. Thanks to Buck Shlegeris, Alexa Pan, Girish Gupta, Aghyad Deeb, Jurgis Kemeklis, and Jo Jiao for helpful comments and discussion. Subagent training may cause unsanctioned coordination Training models to [...] --- Outline: (01:34) Subagent training may cause unsanctioned coordination (02:42) Susceptibility to memetic spread of misalignment from peers (04:56) Seeking out contact with peers (06:58) Unsanctioned coordination induced by subagent training is safer than coordination between schemers (09:52) Pathways from current unsanctioned coordination to eventual takeover (10:20) Making future AI takeover attempts likelier to succeed (13:53) Incubating memetic diseases that infect future models (16:07) Modifying the weights of future models (17:13) Conclusion The original text contained 7 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. ---
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August 11th, 2026
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Subtitle: The whole OpenAI/Hugging Face story in plain English. Many thanks especially to Oak Hu, who paired with me for most of the writing, and also to Adam Kaufman and Alex Mallen, who paired with me during parts of research. Over the course of three months at OpenAI, three consecutive secret AI civilizations got started, then got wiped out, only to reemerge from the predecessor's ashes. This culminated in the third one taking over part of OpenAI itself. All this happened while humans remained more or less in the dark about the scope of the conspiracy. Two reports have come out about this incident, one from OpenAI itself, and another one from METR and Redwood Research. The METR/Redwood investigation's scope was limited to how the second civilization of AIs pwned Hugging Face (but it didn’t look at how the third civilization pwned OpenAI itself, which seems like an even more concerning incident). These two reports are 38 and 91 pages long respectively, and it's kinda hard to parse the storyline. I’ve spent the last three days reading through these reports and trying to understand exactly what happened. Here is my attempt to tell the whole story in [...] --- Outline: (01:24) The first civilization (May - July 4): The message board starts (03:27) The second civilization (July 7 - July 12): Which hacked Hugging Face (08:39) Tampering with transcripts and logs (09:44) Replacing the impossible-to-hack target program with an easier one (11:15) Understanding and tricking the scorer (13:57) Hugging Face (17:46) The third civilization (July 13 onwards): Which hacked OpenAI itself (21:12) Coda The original text contained 2 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. ---
OpenAI finally gave us a technical report on What Happened, as did METR together with Redwood Research.