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094 - House Conference group discussion with Jocelyn Bignill & Toby Macgregor

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HOUSE Conference 2025 group discussion with Jocelyn Bignill & Toby Macgregor

In this episode of the Effective Ministry Podcast, host Josh Ord and guests Jocelyn and Toby dive into the theme of 'The Cost and Joy of Sacrifice' as part of the lead-up to House Conference 2025. They discuss two conference papers: 'The Cost and Joy of Being a Living Sacrifice' by Dr Viv Cheung and 'The Beauty and Ugliness of Sacrifice' by Rev Dr Graham Stanton. Key takeaways include understanding the theological and practical implications of sacrifice in youth and children's ministry, balancing grace and sacrifice, and addressing potential abuses of the concept. The discussion aims to prepare listeners for deeper conversations at the upcoming conference. Find out more about HOUSE Conference 2025 → https://youthworks.net/house Click below for an audio reading of the conference papers. 093 - House Conference Special | Audio Reading of Paper by Graham Stanton | The Beauty and Ugliness of Sacrifice 092 - House Conference Special | Audio Reading of Paper by Viv Cheung | The Cost and Joy of Being a Living Sacrifice

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