Show Notes
“What does it really mean to design with empathy — and how do we stay human in a system that often forgets it?”
Summary In this episode, Kirtika and I explore the layered world of UX design — from discovery and research to empathy and growth. She shares her journey from graphic design to UX, the power of curiosity, and the ongoing challenge of balancing user needs with business goals. We talk about company culture, interviews, autonomy, and what it really takes to keep growing creatively and professionally in this field.
Guest Kirtika B Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/dirtykirti/ LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/bkir/
Host Danny Hearn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/
Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:51 Understanding UX Design 05:59 The Role of a UX Designer 09:00 The Importance of Discovery 11:54 Diverging vs. Converging in Design 15:00 The Evolution of UX Roles 18:04 Balancing Business and User Needs 21:04 Research Methodologies in UX 23:59 The Impact of Dyslexia on Design Thinking 26:52 Cultivating a Supportive Design Culture 28:21 Empowerment and Support in the Workplace 30:15 The Importance of Autonomy and Trust 32:40 Problem-Solving Mindset in Design 34:54 The Art of Listening and Communication 38:14 Navigating Workplace Dynamics 41:05 The Value of Experience and Portfolio 45:03 The Illusion of Job Security 48:09 Pursuing Passion and Overcoming Fear
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“You cannot innovate if you don't have diverse thinking.” Summary In this episode, we explore the winding creative journey of Meg Porter, a designer turned product leader and founder, who shares how her artistic roots evolved into a passion for solving complex human problems. She candidly opens up about navigating corporate environments as a neurodivergent woman, facing systemic biases, and the exhaustion of trying to fit traditional workplace molds. Meg discusses her work with The Female Product Lead community, advocating for truly inclusive leadership and psychological safety across tech. She also details the creation of Unfold, her new app designed to help neurodivergent individuals manage executive dysfunction through nervous system and emotional regulation. Throughout the conversation, Meg highlights the immense value of radical self-knowledge over conventional career frameworks. Guest Meg Porter LinkedIn – https://linkedin.com/in/megporter Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/_meg_porter/ TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@_meg_porter_ Unfold Website – https://getunfold.app Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/_unfoldapp_/ TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@_unfoldapp_ Female Product Lead Website – https://femaleproductlead.com Events – https://luma.com/femaleproductlead Host Danny Hearn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/ Website – https://www.dannyhearn.me Podcast – https://www.deeplyhumandesign.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 01:38 Meg's Origins in Physical Graphic Design 04:43 Navigating Subjectivity and Finding Structure in Design 08:23 Expressing Personal Empathy Through Art Projects 10:17 Transitioning into Corporate Tech and Healthcare Design 14:12 Clashing Values and Systemic Politics in Enterprise Roles 18:35 Fostering Psychological Safety and Diverse Perspectives 22:57 Empowering Underrepresented Voices with Female Product Lead 26:27 Experiencing the Glass Ceiling and Micro-Behaviors 32:25 Finding Core Purpose and Showing Up Authentically 37:14 Building Unfold for Neurodivergent Emotional Regulation 43:58 Developing the MVP and Co-Founding with Family 46:23 Tackling Executive Dysfunction and Rejection Sensitivity 51:21 Prioritising Self-Knowledge Over Skill Sets in Leadership
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"The pressure to move faster in the tech industry creates an environment where presence and mental well-being are often sacrificed for speed.”
Reclaiming the Heart in Design “There’s so much heart in some of these things that you’re putting in heart in that space and I find it very hard to detach some of those.”
“Sometimes the best thing you can do is just be the kindest person in the room.”