Talking Scared

276 – Kylie Lee Baker & Swords Make Everything Worse

Talking Scared

Show Notes

A conversation about codes of honour and the rules of haunting in this week’s episode – as I’m joined by Kylie Lee Baker, author of 2025’s incredible Bat Eater, and the brand-new Japanese Gothic.

It’s the story of a very particular haunted house, a brutal samurai family, and a murderer who can’t remember his crime. It’s exhilaratingly weird and Kylie leads me through its many strange rooms.

We talk about her own dual heritage, it’s role in the story, and links to the very real historical Samurai. We discuss the meanings of Gothic in her work, the art of writing puzzling fiction, and Timothy Chalamet's role in inspiring the novel.

Enjoy!

Other books mentioned:

Bat Eater (2025), by Kylie Anne Baker

Mexican Gothic (2020), by Silvia Moreno-Garcia

So Thirsty (2024), by Rachel Harrison

Rekt (2025), by Alex Rodriguez

Man of Wind and Moss (2026), by Alex Rodriguez

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