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Reading As Resistance: Patty Krawec

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Show Notes

Patty Krawec is Ojibwe Anishinaabe, a retired social worker, and author of Becoming Kin and her new book Bad Indians Book Club. In this conversation she explores kinship beyond blood, land as ancestor, and why reading together — slowly, in community — might be one of the most quietly radical things we can do right now.

Topics

00:00 Introduction

00:56 Meeting Patty Krawec

02:00 Land Lineage Roots

04:17 Becoming Kin Origins

06:43 Bad Indians Book Club

10:12 Reindigenizing The Future

14:55 Reclaiming The Word

20:28 Reading Together Power

25:06 Attention In The Feed

25:27 Relearning Deep Reading

26:10 Notebook Trick for Focus

26:54 Building a Genre Mosaic

29:00 Indigenous Horror and Futures

31:53 Read Widely Use Libraries

32:18 Curated Lists and Book Browsing

34:26 Bookstore Serendipity

36:30 AI Pushes Us Offline

38:18 Books as Time Alchemy

41:58 Ghost the System Together

44:10 Deep Time Reading Lineage

47:14 New Projects and Ojibwe Stories

49:59 Thanks and Farewell

Resources

a thousand worlds

Medicine for the Resistance

Why We Are Both Oppressed and Oppressor: Patty Krawec

Becoming Kin

Bad Indians Book Club

The Eternal Song

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