Futurology

The Human Right to Tell Our Own Stories (with Daniel Kwan and Dawn Nakagawa)

Futurology

Show Notes

Daniel Kwan – the Oscar-winning co-director of Everything Everywhere All at Once – is a 21st-century filmmaker in the purest sense. He came up in the internet’s attention economy, making over-the-top viral videos that harnessed absurdity to cut through the noise. But as AI starts to generate its own strange media at scale, the surreal risks losing its charge in a world that already feels unreal.

In this episode, Kwan argues that Hollywood is on the verge of industrializing imagination in the way we mass-produce food. If machines become the default authors of culture, we may end up awash in highly processed creativity – empty calories with an aftertaste of authenticity. To safeguard creativity in the age of AI, he co-founded the Creators Coalition on AI: a push for a new creative contract where the tools can change, but authorship stays human.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Chromeo - When The Night Falls (feat. Solange Knowles) (Music Video, 2011)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkyYxAv6kB4

Turn Down for What — DJ Snake & Lil Jon / Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert (Music Video, 2014)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_Down_for_What

So Sorry Man — The Lonely Island / Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert (Music Video, 2009)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lonely_Island#Digital_shorts_and_music_videos

The Power of Myth — Joseph Campbell with Bill Moyers (Book, 1988)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth

The Selfish Gene — Richard Dawkins (Book, 1976)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Selfish_GeneWhere to find Dan Kwan:

Website, The Daniels: https://www.danieldaniel.us/

X, Dan Kwan: https://x.com/dunkwun

X, The Daniels: https://x.com/Daniels

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dunkwun

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Credits

Executive Producers: Nicolas Berggruen, Nathan Gardels, Nils Gilman, Dawn Nakagawa, & Jason Hoch

Producers: Grant Slater, Alex Gardels, & Nathalia Ramos

Associate Producer: Elissa Mardiney

Theme Music: Marcus Bagala

Audio Engineer: Aaron Bastinelli & Kyle Scott Wilson

Futurology is a production of Studio B and Wavland for the Berggruen Institute in Los Angeles, California.

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