Show Notes
Listen to learn the emotional impact of revealing secrets vs discovering them.
In this episode Stu, Chas and Mel apply the Landmark–Hidden–Secret framework (from DZ-126) across two very different genres: the thriller SIDE EFFECTS (2013) and the tragicomic pilot of SHRINKING.
SIDE EFFECTS is a film of two genres. The first half plays as a drama about depression and over-medication; the second half is a 90s thriller. We talk about how every time Dr Jonathan Banks uncovers a new piece of information, it puts him in danger — and that danger motivates him to uncover more.
In SHRINKING, we see a different use of the framework. "What are psychologists but detectives of the mind?" Rather than the cost of finding secrets, it's about the cost of sharing them. Chas also comes out of this with a paradigm he's been building toward (but we're keeping what that is secret until you listen!)
And inevitably we go on some tangents: whether SIDE EFFECTS should even have been an erotic thriller!
As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes.
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"Every time Dr Jonathan Banks uncovers a new piece of information, it puts him in danger -- and that danger motivates him to uncover more." — Chas Fisher @ 00:26:04
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 – Cold Open
00:00:16 – Intro: Secrets and Clues 2 - the Cost of Revelation
00:01:03 – Previously on Secrets and Clues (Recap of Part 1)
00:04:24 – Flashforward Insights
00:09:29 – SIDE EFFECTS
00:20:18 – › The First Half: Push and Misdirection
00:28:41 – › Genre Shift: Banks Becomes the Detective
00:48:06 – SHRINKING
01:00:02 – › The Inverted Paradigm: When Everyone Knows
01:07:47 – › The Cost of Sharing
01:22:02 – › Power Through Honest Acknowledgement
01:35:37 – The Key Tool Chas Learned
01:39:28 – Key Learnings & Wrap Up
01:50:48 – Many Thanks to our Patrons!
FILMS
SIDE EFFECTS (2013) — (w) Scott Z Burns (d) Steven Soderbergh
SHOWS
SHRINKING — (w) Brett Goldstein, Jason Segel, Bill Lawrence
SCRIPTS
Study the script: SIDE EFFECTS (2013) — Scott Z Burns
LINKS
Website: DIY & dragons: Landmark, Hidden, Secret
Website: The Alexandrian » Advanced Node-Based Design
Website: Ascii Dreams: The Quest for Quests (Part One)
Website: Ascii Dreams: The Quest for Quests (Part Two)
EPISODES IN THE SECRETS AND CLUES SERIES
DZ-126: Secrets and Clues
DZ-127: Secrets and Clues 2 - The Cost of Revelation
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DZ-90: Setups & Payoffs in EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE
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