005: "Boy with Stick" feat. Tom Mullen (Washed Up Emo)

Today I'm talking to TOM MULLEN from WASHED UP EMO.

Tom’s been in the music business for decades, doing digital marketing, executive work, & an array of creative projects at labels like Vagrant, TVT, Equal Vision, Sony, & others.

He started the Washed Up Emo website in 2007, & has since expanded it into a podcast with over 250 episodes, a book series, & a DJ night.

In this episode, we talk about how the changing media landscape of the late 90s & early 2000s intersected with alternative music culture, the ambivalence around "Midwest emo" as sub-genre & brand, & where Hum might fit within that specific context. We also explore one of the band’s most beloved b-sides, looking at its strange place in their discography. Where does it truly belong?

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SMILE POLITELY Interview: Matt Talbott

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TIMESTAMPS:

02:16 // Booking Hopesfall & Saves the Day 05:00 // Early Podcasting Landscape 13:43 // Curiosity & Connection 17:35 // Washed Up Emo Podcast 20:15 // "Midwest Emo,” the Anachronism 24:19 // HUM re Emo 34:27 // WRUV, MTV, & the Cat's Cradle 36:37 // The Quiet-Loud 39:52 // Pre-YPAA Sessions 46:45 // DIH Reissue Playback @ Sony 51:45 // "Boy with Stick" Discussion

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Other songs:

Deftones, "Minerva" Title Fight: "Head in the Ceiling Fan"

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