
Show Notes
In this episode of Q’d Up, host Nikki Wishart is joined by Jac Shaw, Retail Media Lead at QSIC, to pull back the curtain on the rapidly evolving world of Retail Media. With nearly two decades of experience at Nova Entertainment under her belt, Jac explains how she’s transitioned from traditional radio to pioneering the Retail Media space. She dives into the psychology of how audio shapes our subconscious shopping habits, explaining why a well-curated playlist is "companion, convincing, and connecting" for customers with a basket in hand.
Jac shares the behind-the-scenes magic of recent standout campaigns, including the "Rave Cave" activation with Liquorland for Mardi Gras and the Troye Sivan x Penfolds 389 partnership . From the staggering $440 billion spent in physical retail to the power of layering audio over visual assets, Jac makes a compelling case for why marketers can no longer afford to treat in-store music as an afterthought. We also get a glimpse into Jac’s disciplined routine (including those 3:30 a.m. workouts!) and her journey from high school musical theatre to Big Day Out mosh pits.
[00:00:00] – Introduction to Jac Shaw and her transition from Nova to Qsic
[00:01:33] – Defining Retail Media: Leveraging assets to drive purchase
[00:02:56] – Summarising 17 years of audio in three words
[00:04:04] – The evolution of the purchase funnel: From awareness to the shelf
[00:06:10] – Accountability in advertising: Using digital analytics in-store
[00:07:28] – The power of impulse: Influencing the $440 billion retail market
[00:08:37] – Subconscious impact: How music gets "stuck in your head" and drives sales
[00:11:04] – Case Study: The Liquorland "Rave Cave" and celebrating community
[00:16:01] – Commercialising the floor plan: How audio and screens work together
[00:18:36] – Case Study: Troye Sivan x Penfolds audio takeover and contextual tagging
[00:23:18] – Retail Media 3.0: Moving toward experience-led activations and wine tastings in-store
[00:25:22] – Quickfire round: 3:30 a.m. workouts and why silence is a "vibe killer"
[00:28:10] – Music memories: From Jesus Christ Superstar to Jebediah and Sabrina Carpenter
We acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the lands on which we are filming today, the people of the Kulin Nation. We also pay respect to their Elders, past and present.
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