Show Notes
Saatva grew to more than $150 million on one channel: non-branded search. Then hundreds of competitors flooded the mattress category and costs skyrocketed.
This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by Saatva CMO Joe McCambley to talk about what happened next. Joe explains the statistically significant relationships he tracks between channels, why $200,000 a month in podcast advertising moved branded search within weeks, and how a WARC-led curriculum got his board comfortable with upper funnel spend. Plus, hear why he'd rather blanket the universe than target individual consumers.
Topics covered: [03:30] The physical laws that predict brand growth
[07:00] What forced Saatva up the funnel
[15:00] Owning restorative sleep in a crowded category
[18:45] How the Olympic sponsorship came to be
[23:15] What marketers should look for in a CEO
[29:00] Mining 150,000 sales calls with AI
[32:15] Joe's most contrarian marketing opinion
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Resources: 2026 ClickZ Article: https://clickz.com/saatvas-cmo-on-how-the-la28-games-bet-paid-off/273219/
Joe McCambley's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joemccambley/
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