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Therapy Is Not Neutral: Dr. Jennifer Mullan & Iya Affo

Sounds of SAND

Show Notes

A Decolonial Invitation to Remember, Relearn, and Resist

From a live SAND Community Gathering (November 2025) a live conversation with Dr. Jennifer Mullan & Iya Affo.

Their discussion emphasizes the importance of ancestral wisdom, collective healing, and the decolonization of therapeutic practices. Dr. Mullan shares her personal journey of reconciling traditional healing methods with modern therapy and explores the impact of historical and intergenerational trauma. The conversation also highlights the significance of land, lineage, and community in the healing process, and addresses the ways in which therapy can be transformed to be more inclusive and effective for diverse populations.

Dr. Mullan shares from her journey of calling therapists into a politicized practice—one rooted in responsibility, reverence, and collective liberation. The conversation challenges clinicians to confront their training, interrogate their privilege, and participate in the sacred labor of relearning.

Topics

00:00 Welcome and Introductions

00:30 Honoring Ancestral Wisdom

01:54 Introducing Iya Affo

04:23 Meet Dr. Jennifer Mullan

05:22 The Non-Neutrality of Therapy

10:39 Decolonizing Therapy: A Deep Dive

14:33 Therapy and Boundaries

27:42 The Historical Impact on Therapy

31:24 Shining a Light on Hidden History

31:55 Finding Safe Spaces for Vulnerability

32:21 Therapeutic Contexts and Trauma

33:45 Bridging and Reciprocity in Healing

37:04 Colonial Soul Wound and Historical Trauma

39:39 Reclaiming Ancestral Pathways

42:25 Decolonizing Therapy for All

45:43 Healing Across Layered Dimensions

54:50 Embracing Sacred Rage and Grief

58:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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